Primary Bug Report The Coolest Cat - Quest fails to progress upon being force-greeted by the Gunners

[The2501Project]

To Kinggath and the whole team, thanks for doing what you do with thee mods.

I have hit an impassable issue with The Coolest Cat. When you are supposed to find The Ron, walking up to the Gunners outside results in a locked camera and no dialogue options as the large armored gunner walks up to you then turns away. I have already tried disabling mods that directly affect Diamond City with no luck. Load order below. Thanks in advance for your help.

Spoiler: Load Order

0 0 Fallout4.esm
1 1 DLCRobot.esm
2 2 DLCworkshop01.esm
3 3 DLCCoast.esm
4 4 DLCworkshop02.esm
5 5 DLCworkshop03.esm
6 6 DLCNukaWorld.esm
254 FE 0 ccbgsfo4018-gaussrifleprototype.esl
254 FE 1 ccbgsfo4019-chinesestealtharmor.esl
254 FE 2 ccbgsfo4020-powerarmorskin(black).esl
254 FE 3 ccfsvfo4001-modularmilitarybackpack.esl
254 FE 4 ccbgsfo4045-advarccab.esl
254 FE 5 ccfsvfo4003-slocum.esl
254 FE 6 ccgcafo4009-factionws09mm.esl
254 FE 7 ccgcafo4016-factionas05hrshark.esl
254 FE 8 ccgcafo4018-factionas07mm.esl
254 FE 9 ccawnfo4001-brandedattire.esl
7 7 ccswkfo4001-astronautpowerarmor.esm
254 FE a ccbgsfo4061-dgshiinu.esl
254 FE b ccbgsfo4036-trnsdg.esl
254 FE c cceejfo4002-nuka.esl
8 8 cczsef04001-bhouse.esm
9 9 cctosfo4001-neosky.esm
254 FE d cckgjfo4001-bastion.esl
254 FE e ccbgsfo4083-pipartdeco.esl
254 FE f ccjvdfo4001-holiday.esl
10 a cczsefo4002-smanor.esm
254 FE 10 ccacxfo4001-vsuit.esl
254 FE 11 ccbgsfo4040-vrworkshop01.esl
254 FE 12 ccfsvfo4005-vrdesertisland.esl
254 FE 13 ccfsvfo4006-vrwasteland.esl
11 b cctosfo4002_neonflats.esm
254 FE 14 ccfsvfo4004-vrworkshopgnrplaza.esl
12 c Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp
13 d XDI.esm
14 e ArmorKeywords.esm
15 f HUDFramework.esm
16 10 AnnexTheCommonwealth.esm
254 FE 15 Loot Detector.esl
17 11 WorkshopFramework.esm
254 FE 16 GraveDigger - Skeleton Patch.esl
254 FE 17 GraveDigger.esl
254 FE 18 GraveDigger - Gravestones.esl
254 FE 19 GraveDiggerVIS.esl
18 12 SS2.esm
19 13 Brawl Bug Fix.esp
20 14 LooksMenu.esp
21 15 LooksMenu Customization Compendium.esp
22 16 BostonFPSFixAIO.esp
254 FE 1a Flicker Fixer.esp
23 17 Merged Fixes.esp
24 18 RAW INPUT.esp
25 19 CBBE.esp
26 1a AWKCR - Mod Power Armor Engine Glitch Fix.esp
27 1b FunctionalDisplays-Collectibles.esp
28 1c FunctionalDisplays.esp
29 1d VIS-G Item Sorting.esp
30 1e WorkshopRearranged.esp
254 FE 1b Schnips - Workshop Rearranged - VIS-G Patch.esp
31 1f FunctionalDisplays-MISC-VIS.esp
32 20 clothingoverhaul.esp
33 21 MojaveImports.esp
34 22 FunctionalDisplays-AID-VIS.esp
35 23 FunctionalDisplays-Patch-DLC-ALL-VIS.esp
36 24 More Power Armour Mods.esp
37 25 PAMAP.esp
38 26 More Power Armour Mods - Automatron.esp
39 27 ClothingOverhaulSP_XB1_PC.esp
40 28 CraftingFramework.esp
41 29 The Eyes Of Beauty.esp
42 2a TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
43 2b GruffyddsSignsAndPosters.esp
44 2c SettlementMenuManager.esp
254 FE 1c Schnips - SettlementMenuManager - VIS-G Patch.esp
45 2d FunctionalDisplays-AID-VIS-WI.esp
46 2e AkmaBudaePC.esp
47 2f ModdableRobotSettlers.esp
48 30 th1nkEyebot.esp
49 31 th1nkEyeBot-FarHarbor.esp
50 32 th1nkEyeBot-NukaWorld.esp
51 33 th1nkEyeBot-DLC03DLC04Addon.esp
52 34 OutcastsAndRemnants.esp
53 35 Depravity.esp
54 36 PaladinBaileyRedRocket.esp
55 37 Stm_DiamondCityExpansion.esp
56 38 AA FusionCityRising.esp
57 39 DCGuard_Overhaul.esp
58 3a ProjectValkyrie.esp
59 3b F4NVServiceRifleRedux.esp
60 3c cVc Dead Wasteland 6.esp
61 3d HeirApparent.esp
62 3e CartographersMapMarkers Commonwealth.esp
63 3f CartographersMapMarkers FarHarbor.esp
64 40 CartographersMapMarkers NukaWorld.esp
65 41 EFF.esp
66 42 DD_MMX_Faction_Flags_AlwaysAvail.esp
67 43 SettleObjExpandPack.esp
68 44 WorkshopPlus.esp
69 45 SS2Extended.esp
70 46 SS2_ruined_simsettlement_addonpack.esp
71 47 [SS2 Addon] SimSettlements SuperStructures.esp
72 48 SS2WastelandVenturers.esp
73 49 SalvageBeacons.esp
74 4a SS2-PraRandomAddon.esp
254 FE 1d SS2-PraRandomAddon-VIS.esp
75 4b Armorsmith Extended.esp
Bashed Patch, 0.esp

 

[Thewesterndevil]

So, if you sit down in the chair it will work. At least that’s what I got to work.

 

[ceemosp]

I am late to chime in but I encountered several issues when using XDI on another playthrough (not SS2 related since I was using SS1 at the time) and all were with vanilla quests and/or conflicts causing other mods to stop working. Removing XDI from my loadorder completely solved this issue for me and I also had no problem with this particular SS2 quest. For this reason I am pointing strongly at XDI for being the culprit here. Strangely enough it seems to be a problem that is very hard to nail down precisely, since it seems to be dependand on the combination of mods XDI is used with. Some work good - others don't but for me the easiest solution was to eliminate the one single common factor - XDI.

 

[murarst]

I am late to chime in but I encountered several issues when using XDI on another playthrough (not SS2 related since I was using SS1 at the time) and all were with vanilla quests and/or conflicts causing other mods to stop working. Removing XDI from my loadorder completely solved this issue for me and I also had no problem with this particular SS2 quest. For this reason I am pointing strongly at XDI for being the culprit here. Strangely enough it seems to be a problem that is very hard to nail down precisely, since it seems to be dependand on the combination of mods XDI is used with. Some work good - others don't but for me the easiest solution was to eliminate the one single common factor - XDI.

Yep. XDI is listed as not compatible in the wiki. However there's a patch: https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/48254
Is your description related to the patched or unpatched version?

 

[ceemosp]

Both - the patched version solved issues with SS but - just as the unpatched one - did not solve issues with vanilla quests and various other mods that use dialogues.
I consider XDI a fairly high risk mod for this respect but naturally, that is a personal opinion of mine.

 

[msalaba]

I have used XDI since it was released. I have not had a problem with vanilla quests. It makes me curious why they broke for you.

My patch does not touch The Coolest Cat quest. The only quest that breaks when using XDI with SS2 is the radio scene during Where There's Smoke. The other 2 quests that my patch touches are merely cosmetic. I have played the SS2 MQ to completion 9 times and XDI has been in my LO each time. I don't even want to think about the insane number of times I played through quests while creating and testing my patch...

There were quite a few reports of problems with the Gunners dialog during the early versions of SS2. IIRC, the #1 solution was turning the dialog camera back on. There was also a mod conflict found, but I can not remember what mod.

 

[ceemosp]

Not entirely sure what it is but each time I got to the Curie quest with XDI in my load order it got stuck. XDI removed and all was fine.
It also interferes with several mods that allow multiple companions and use the dialogue options to control them. Liga of Companions is amongst those.
Basically any mod that uses the dialogue can be affected - to varying degrees.

 

[msalaba]

Weird. I have not had any issues with any quests related to Currie.

Yes, there are a lot of Quest / Companion mods that do not get along very well with XDI. I have talked to a couple mod authors about it. No one really knows why XDI causes the issues in the first place. Heck, just adding some text to the quest scene in Who Can? ASAM! breaks the quest so the city plan is never built. I'm not even convinced that I solved the problem correctly as my "I know what I'm doing" skill is not high enough!

 

[XxA1xX]

This is one of the few quests that never gives me issues surprised so many others have so many issues with it. I’d guess its a mod conflict some where but I’ve ran a ton of mods on a ton of play throughs with no issues either. Will say I’ve never used xdi though so my best guess would be ditch xdi until it’s fixed.