I tried those and some of the performance options in the holotape but they didn't help. What DID help (except for the crash when fast traveling to another settlement) the lag was disabling the high texture pack in steam which is a shame, I used to use an ultra texture pack mod too. My system should be able to handle that.
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Scrapped too many settlement building needed for ROTC
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Yea if you have the Steam version then you can also try right clicking on the game in Steam, select properties, then the Local Files tab, then use the button that says verify integrity of game files. I've never needed to try it with FO4 but I have with other games from Steam and it's fixed alot of seemingly random issues for me. The only problem is it may also reinstall the default files in your "Documents/My Games/Fallout 4/Fallout4custom.ini which you may have to add to again to enable PC side mods, loaded from anywhere beside the game mod store, and other custom things like the memory and limit increase for Papyrus. I haven't touched that file in a long time other than yesterday when I put in those Papyrus settings, so for all I know the game itself may put in the mod enabling lines now on it's own since they have added the in game mod store.
Well removing the papyrus settings and putting back the high res textures didn't fix anything. I can't fast travel or walk out of a settlement without a CTD. If I load a save inside a settlement they seem to load but then if I try to leave the area, CTD. If I load a save outside of a settlement, CTD. Is there some tool that can check profiles/saves and fix corruptions? Disabling all mods doesn't help. Also, removing power armor gives CTD.
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Yea this may be the tool you are thinking of. https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/22633/?tab=description
It's primarily for script errors in your save games but Kinggath has talked about it in the forums and recommended it for some things in the Wiki so it could possibly help you out. The creator of the mod even says he may be able to help you with errors if you send him your save game so that might help also.
One other thing you might try is installing one or both of Kinggath's latest fixes that among other things can help with CTD issues. Kinggath does note however that the Fallrim Tools mod is limited in what it can do and what it can't do, and that he's working with the author of the mod to see if they can make it a little more robust in issues it can help solve.
These are the links to the two latest beta updates you might try using, in this order.....
https://simsettlements.com/site/index.php?threads/hotfix-2-beta.2957/
https://simsettlements.com/site/index.php?threads/temporary-crash-fix-for-pc-players.3929/
Make sure you read the information about what those two updates do and are for and what they can't do and then you can decided weather one or both might help your situation.
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Yea if you disabled all mods and it's still a problem then it's most likely either a corrupted save from something in the past, or a corrupted game file, which is less likely. You may need to start a new game with only a minimal amount of mods, and nothing that would do anything to settlements except for Sim settlements and it's addons and maybe the one for scrapping called "Place Anywhere" Kinggath seems to like that one as a better alternative to some of the other scrap mods that inadvertently damage "Precombined Data" whatever that is. But it doesn't sound like something i'd want to remove from the game. I may be switching to Place Anywhere myself soon.
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Nope, cleaning the save didn't help.
Yea i'm kind of out of ideas here. You may want to try updating your SS mod and any other addon ones that Kinggath just updated but your problem sounds like something that was changed, possibly in the past, by another mod, and those are a pain because if you disable or uninstall all your other mods besides SS and ROtC and or the industrial one and you STILL have the problem, it means whatever the mod did can't be corrected by removing the mod, which is the case apparently with some of the cleanup mods. You may be close to the point of just having to start a new game, or not use ROtC till you decide when you want to start a new game, unless someone else like Tankthing has some other ideas.
Me too, I sent the save to the fallrim guy and he didn't spot anything special. I did notice that it will also CTD if i just load a save and wait 3 minutes. Doing other thing like walking fast travel or even attempting to refresh the local SS plots will make it crash sooner. Something is hosed; just not sure what.
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Yea alot of the time your savegame can get so corrupted that it can't be repaired with current tools. Fallrim Tools as far as I can tell is primarily geared towards finding scripting issues, and there is alot of other data that can cause problems. That is why Kinggath said he was trying to work with the Fallrim Tools guy to see if they could make a program that's more robust about finding issues in savegames. So hopefully that will happen sometime soon, before Fallout 5 comes out which i'm sure will probably pull most peoples attention away from Fallout 4.
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Or....maybe I won't start a new game since that crashes too...
Ok yea if your trying to start a brand new FO4 game and it's crashing you DEFINATELY have some kind of bad mod conflict. Your prolly gonna have to go thru whichever mod manager you use and disable all your mods and then start adding them back one or two at a time to see what's doing it. Since Kinggath has put a ton of work into making sure his are stable you may be able to start with just SS and ROtC and then work your way up from there.
I disabled all the mods, running only DLC, and it crashed (with my old saves) so I tried deleting the .esms (fo4 and dlc) and redownloading them. if that doesn't work I may have to uninstall the whole game and add back all my mods one at a time but I don't think it's the mods. I think something got corrupted. I've read suggestions of default ini files maybe, not sure what I'm going to try next.
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Starting to sound a bit like loose files might be biting you. Clean out anything that isn't base game related in the data folder (usually base game starts with Fallout 4 or DLC or CC)
I generally just zip the whole thing to someplace, then clean it up so I can restore if needed.
You'll need to reinstall most/all of your mods but sounds like you are doing that anyway.
I generally just zip the whole thing to someplace, then clean it up so I can restore if needed.
You'll need to reinstall most/all of your mods but sounds like you are doing that anyway.
Yep, that's pretty much what I had to do. I backed everything up, deleted everything in the steam/.../fo4/ dir and reinstalled the game and (almost) all of the mods. It took hours but I was able to get it back working with my last saves. I had to refresh the local plots in most of my settlements but that's not the end of the world and for some reason IDEK logistic station was reinstalled but it's not a plot option anymore and they all reverted to a scrap plot; I'll work on that later.
I'm still hoping for a way to put back all of the stuff I scrapped and recombine the precombines
but I'll probably have to start a new game for that it seems.
I'm still hoping for a way to put back all of the stuff I scrapped and recombine the precombines
but I'll probably have to start a new game for that it seems.