Question ROTC plots not spawning when settlerment build

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  1. kithawk

    kithawk New Member

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    ive had this issue for an extreamly long time, and it’s very frustrating.

    So let me start off with a few key points:

    One: This issue is constant for me, I’ve completely reinstalled the game, shifted its stored location, removed all mods but sim Settlements and ROTC and requisite mods, and the issue still persists. Heck, my computer had a complete OS corruption and I completely reinstalled everything and the issue still persists.

    Two: The issue affects all settlements.

    Three: the installation of the mod isn’t the issue: I've manually installed it, used NMM, Vortex and Bethesda to install it, always to the same result.

    The issue itself is this: City plans build, and a select few plots such as outside agricultural and the occasional outside martial plot actually spawn. No other interior or exterior plots spawn. I don't mean they don't build. It says they build and even upgrade. But the plots, their markers, their buildings don't show up (ill post screen caps and other relevant information when I get home.) It’s extremely frustrating, It's like the hollow shell of a settlement builds but nothing populates it. It's not even like plots themselves can be built. Plots and all other SIm settlement related content works perfectly, but for whatever reason, ROTC does not place the vast majority of plots when building a settlement.
    I’ve heard people saying that they changed the number of threads the mod uses and that fixes issues, how does one do this and could this be causing the issue?

    I've used loot to clean the plugins and mods, and done everything I can think of to solve the issue. But it's always the same. Am I missing something?
     
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    NDCowdy Active Member Patreon Supporter

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    A quick question, how many settlers do you have? As a plan will only build plots for settlers present, it can also take some time after the initial build to start generating the plots. Depends s lot on how much demand is being placed on scripts.
     
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    In terms of settlers: its sanctuary so Preston and his crew

    In terms of how plots work, i am aware that it would only build on plots as people join. The issue is that on sanctuary and other settlements, plots aren't generated at all. The only plot markers I can find are that of a martial plot and the external agricultural plots. There are no other plot markers, Ill give it 30 minutes when I get home to see if anything happens, but from my experience nothing does. I’m playing with complex blueprints, so that could be slowing things down IG...

    The same issue happens on all other settlements. How long should it take to generate plots?
     
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    NDCowdy Active Member Patreon Supporter

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    Depending on how far you are through the starting quests Preston may not yet be available to work yet (same with Codsworth, and he doesn't get much better). You have listed several work plots being generated, so some plots are appearing. As many as available workers? Is anyone showing as unemployed? Have they any residential plots?
     
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    Hmm, I’ll have to check, do plot markers spawn in as settlers come? I thought they all generated with the settlement, maybe I just don’t under stand how ROTC plots are handled, but I recall all markers for plots being placed when construction of the framework finished and then were built on. I’ll check when I get home
     
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    Phil_T_Casual Well-Known Member Community Rockstar

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    It depends on how the city plan was designed, but often plots won't appear unless there's someone there to occupy it.
     
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    It’s the complex sanctuary plan that I’m playing on right now
     
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    City plans only generate enough plots for the current population. So as your population grows so does the settlement.
     
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    Alright, I’ll hold off on the solved until I can get home and confirm for certain, thanks for being so patient with my thick head
     
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    alright so, Ive let it run for an hour now, ive counted my settlers, the only thing is still the one guard post and agg plots Untitled1.png Untitled.png
    what now? Im really starting to get frustrated with this. No houses have been built
     

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    Phil_T_Casual Well-Known Member Community Rockstar

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    All SS mods are up to date?
    Show us your loadorder.
     
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    Yes, I’m even on a fresh instal. This issue just refuses to go away.
     
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    RayBo Well-Known Member Patreon Supporter Community Rockstar Support Team Vault Librarian

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    Oh, this is Sanctuary. Could it be your settlers are getting their jobs satisfied by the gords across the street and watermelons behind the house? The Concord crew for god-knows-why are abnormally attracted to them. Before I build in SAN I remove them. "I think 3 - 4 gords and the watermelons". I remove them because they can really mess me up the early game when getting them to take to plots. I remove them before going to concord.
     
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    The issue is they just don’t build houses or any other plot. It’s as if they don’t extist
     
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    RayBo Well-Known Member Patreon Supporter Community Rockstar Support Team Vault Librarian

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    I know. I workshop mode highlight each one and see where they are assigned. If they have a vanilla job they may not trigger as available settlers

    + and make sure realistic build time is off in the halotape. sorry if someone already said this.

    my guess it is the vanilla vegetables messing you up. Its happened to me :crazy
     
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    Maybe, let me try some other settlements, I’ll check the holotape
     
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    If the issue, persist, what can I do, send files to you? Any way it could be a hardware issue? I have a 108ti, 1tb of storage, and a core I77k so I doubt it. But this issue has persisted for months even across a complete system whip. I really want to enjoy the mod, but I am starting to wonder if it will ever work on my PC

    hear is my load order:[​IMG]
     
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    You might like to add Hudframework to your mods https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/20309/?
    This will give you more information about how settlers are being employed and how well their needs are being met.
    In the holotape you can also run a report that will tell you what plots are present.
    In workshop mode does it say if you have any beds or not?
    If things aren't showing up properly it may also help to try a refresh via the City Planner Desk (option on via the Blueprint on the desk) or after trying everything else you can try pulling it down and rebuilding (might kick something free).
     
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    Y’all are going to kill me. It was working this whole time, the houses were just in the ruins by the bridge. Sorry for waisting all of your time. But hey at least it works
     
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    hahaha, vanilla beds or vegetables, its all good! Glad you got it figured out! :good
     
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