New Report Exit to desktop = game freeze

Discussion in 'Conqueror Mod (System Bugs)' started by Rudy, Jan 19, 2019.

  1. Slb1

    Slb1 Active Member

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    Just started a new game (#6 Minutemen Liberators) and the Quit Freeze is occurring. If I understand correctly, I can "idle" in the underground bunker (where COOTS halo tapes are located) in Sanctuary and that should help correct the problem?

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  2. Kevin5264

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    Hello. I recently came across this forum searching for the answer myself online. I downloaded Sim Settlements - Conqueror v4.2.4 on 3/28/20 and ever since then I've had my game freezing when attempting to exit to desktop via the menu in Fallout 4. It goes to "Saving..." and it never finishes. I'm forced to sign out of my user to get it to close.

    After reading through the forums thoroughly, I did download Quieter Settlements mod and left it on its default settings. I uninstalled the mod and to no avail the freezing continued. I recently uninstalled Sim Settlements - Conqueror, played for a bit on a new save, and attempted to exit to desktop and it worked perfectly. No hitches, slow downs, didn't load, nothing. Immediate exit. My saves are not bloated as my file size for my save is only 24,135 KB and I have 131 plugins, six being light.

    After uninstalling Sim Settlements - Conqueror and the game ran perfectly fine when attempting to exit, I can only conclude that the reason for the freezing during exiting was because of this mod. I also did what was mentioned before. Going in an interior location and waiting to let the scripts catch up and then attempting to save and I had the same result of freezing when attempting to exit.

    One notable thing to mention is I used the randomize settlement building when I started a new game. I removed Bunker Hill and Abernathy Farm to avoid the triangle of death and to avoid unwanted frame drops when going near Bunker Hill. I randomized settlement population with the minimum being 30% and maximum being 100%, I randomized settlement building levels with the minimum being level one and the maximum being level three, and finally I also activated the, I believe it was called, "war" option where the settlements were taken over, also randomized.

    Thank you for your hard work you guys put into making this mod and keeping it updated. I hope this somehow helps because I really loved the Conqueror mod and would enjoy using it again. :)
     
  3. 1ae0bfb8

    1ae0bfb8 Well-Known Member Patreon Supporter

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    if you have uninstalled mods without rolling back to a save you made before you installed them, then sad to say, you've wrecked that play through.
    if you can, roll back to a save before you installed the mods and your game was stable.
     
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  4. Kevin5264

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    I started a new game with Conqueror being installed and that's the only character save that's ever had that issue with no other new mods being installed besides Conqueror. I made a different new character and tested it without Conqueror being installed and exiting worked perfectly. On that existing save with Conqueror being installed on every exit to desktop attempt, even using "qqq" in console, gave me an infinite "Saving..." screen, like others here have reported.

    I thought it was like he said, too many scripts trying to run at once and the game just couldn't handle it. Since Fallout 4's engine isn't the best I figured it was just that, which is may as well might be, I have no idea. I don't want to point the finger in a negative way, especially since I love this mod, but uninstalling working perfectly fine on a new save I can't help but do so. :(
     
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    1ae0bfb8 Well-Known Member Patreon Supporter

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    ok good to know.

    i've had the same issue as you are reporting.

    once i simply left my computer and went to bed and at some point overnight the save "ended" and i had my desktop when i came down the next morning.

    its basically related to scripts that are running and running. the reason for that varies from game to game, system to system. it really is a pita to resolve. what i have learned from it though is that sooner or later, the game that is unable to end in a reasonable time is on the road to ruin.

    flaky engine is a great description. it is exactly that.
     
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  6. Snostorm

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    Hi, having the same issue, a few people reported loot overhaul as the conflict but I still had exit freezes without that. Even trying less settlements and less population legend still have me exit freezes. However no issues in game play.


    I'd still like to use Conquerer, and I have a second screen so killing the game is no issue.

    What I'd like to know is will continuing to do that ruin my save several hours down the line? Or will it just be a slight annoyance?

    Also is this fully compatible with Depravity?

    Thanks!!!
     
  7. 1ae0bfb8

    1ae0bfb8 Well-Known Member Patreon Supporter

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    mod works with depravity.
    no-one can tell you with absolute certainty that your game won't be ruined. it's safe to assume that at some point, the game will die on you. that's just the way it is.
    when the game is functioning normally - this doesn't happen. i've come to regard it as a sure sign that the game is somehow broken, and once a game is broken, it ain't going to get any better, so i wave it good bye and start over.
     
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  8. Snostorm

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    Alrighty, it's a shame then that I won't be able to play conqueror. I've tried to find the cause of the exit freeze over the last two days and have run through the intro to the game way too many times :P
    Hopefully late down the road this issue won't be a thing, thanks for the help!
     
  9. shadowfox911

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    For those getting the Freeze on 'Quit to Deskop' when running 'Conquerer' and 'Scrap Everything' here is a possible workaround:

    1- Reinstall Scrap Everythingand when prompted for install of 'Core' or 'Ultimate' select 'CORE' and check all the boxes for the seperate DLC packages.

    2- Enable only the CORE package and test to see if the freeze still exists. In my testing the Quit to Desktop worked correctly

    3- Now enable the 4 DLCs and test. You should once again be getting hanging on Quit to Desktop

    4- Disable the 'Far Harbor' DLC package and keep the other 3 active now test again

    So everytime I enable the 'Far Harbor' DLC package, I get the freeze. I even get the freeze if only 'Far Harbor' is active. I still want to do some addtional testing to hopfully find a fix

    Basically can still use 'Conquerer' along with 'Scrap Everything', just need to leave Far Harbor inactive. If you get to a point you need to scap things in Far Harbor, just enable the package and understand you will freeze when you Quit to Desktop.

    Let me know if you are seeing the same results or different. It will help that I'm looking in the right location.
     
  10. 1ae0bfb8

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    doing that will almost certainly break your game.
     

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