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Hello everyone,

While I don’t wish to add to the amount of distress in these forums, I’d like to add my two cents to the problem. Level 3 settlements such as sanctuary, red rocket, and finch farm cause ctds when trying to approach them either by foot or by fast travel. Red rocket I can get close by foot for a few seconds but ultimately it ctds after a few seconds while finch farm and sanctuary are completely gone for me. I’ve tried to do remote detonation of plots on red rocket/sanctuary but unfortunately it always leads to another ctd about 5ish minutes in the process with the message: “fallout 4 has stopped responding.”

I don’t mean to cause more frustration but I’ve tried lowering my PCs graphics, turning off performance options in the ss tool options but nothing seems to work. I only ask since it seems no matter what I can’t get Garvey to give me the taking independence quest so I thought asking him in sanctuary might work but that place is a complete dead zone for me. Should I try disabling sim settlements and it’s related mods then reenabling them? Wait for optimized city plans and then start over?
 
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Blajammer said:
Hello everyone,

While I don’t wish to add to the amount of distress in these forums, I’d like to add my two cents to the problem. Level 3 settlements such as sanctuary, red rocket, and finch farm cause ctds when trying to approach them either by foot or by fast travel. Red rocket I can get close by foot for a few seconds but ultimately it ctds after a few seconds while finch farm and sanctuary are completely gone for me. I’ve tried to do remote detonation of plots on red rocket/sanctuary but unfortunately it always leads to another ctd about 5ish minutes in the process with the message: “fallout 4 has stopped responding.”

I don’t mean to cause more frustration but I’ve tried lowering my PCs graphics, turning off performance options in the ss tool options but nothing seems to work. I only ask since it seems no matter what I can’t get Garvey to give me the taking independence quest so I thought asking him in sanctuary might work but that place is a complete dead zone for me. Should I try disabling sim settlements and it’s related mods then reenabling them? Wait for optimized city plans and then start over?
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Welcome to the club, I'm hoping for a solution that doesn't require starting over with virtually no mods... :grin
 
Same.....this will be the fourth time I’ve had to restart an entire play through (if it comes to that) and while yes most of this play through was spent settlement building with the brotherhood just arriving........I really don’t want to start all over again.......
 
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Same.....this will be the fourth time I’ve had to restart an entire play through (if it comes to that) and while yes most of this play through was spent settlement building with the brotherhood just arriving........I really don’t want to start all over again.......
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One of the things they tried to get me to do was run a fresh install/game with no mods other than SS required mods so, I wonder, how many mods are you running after your restart?
 
@Blajammer you show as being an XBox user. If you're a PC user please mark yourself as PC so the support team has an easier time helping you correctly.

SME is asking a valid question, the number and types of mods really can make a huge difference, especially in resource constrained environments like Xbox.
 
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@Blajammer you show as being an XBox user. If you're a PC user please mark yourself as PC so the support team has an easier time helping you correctly.
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I didn't even notice his xbox logo but he did say this: "I don’t mean to cause more frustration but I’ve tried lowering my PCs graphics"...so I assume PC. Maybe he has both... *shrug*
 
Ah, no worries, wouldn't hurt to mark off as having both in your profile, means you'll have to specify which one you need support on but that way we can make outrageous suggestions involving the console when we know you're on the pc version :)

The next 2 questions:
1) can you dump a copy of your load order for us? Sometimes there's things that are obvious that stick out.
2) What's your hardware look like? What kind of graphics card? How much physical memory? What processor?
 
Before I start this, I just wanted to say thank you for all the help that the moderators including Kinggath, tankthing, and all other community members have provided. I only started pc gaming a few months ago and modded gaming a month ago, yet the help I've received form this community has not only been expedient but actually useful and most of all friendly. I apologize for all the questions and advice but I would rather seek help than just abandon the game entirely given that mods make games 10000% better.

Alienware 15 R3
Processor: Intel(R) Core i7-6700HQ CPU @ 2.60GHz
Installed RAM: 16.0 (15.9 GB usable)
Graphics: GTX 1060

MODS (Takes straight from NMM):

Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp=1
HUDFramework.esm=1
TrueStormsFO4.esm=1
Knockout Framework.esm=1
ArmorKeywords.esm=1
NewCalibers.esp=1
Eisenwolfs Legacy.esm=1
SimSettlements.esm=1
CBBE.esp=1
SimSettlements_AddOnPack_Utilities_JtBryant.esp=1
ValdacilsItemSorting-00-ValsPicks-DLCVersion.esp=1
Armorsmith Extended.esp=1
The_Prydwen_Overhaul.esp=1
VisibleCompanionAffinity.esp=1
BetterSettlers.esp=1
3dscopes-framework.esp=1
dD-Enhanced Blood Basic.esp=1
dD - Small Splatter Size.esp=1
Cozy Beds.esp=1
HN66Fo4_EasyGirl_BS.esp=1
AdvSettleTurretSet-Real.esp=1
Non-Lethal Armory.esp=1
Combatrifle_Extend.esp=1
Fafnir.esp=1
justSomeTerminals.esp=1
DiamondCitySWAT.esp=1
EvilViking13_MinutemenMorale.esp=1
PlasmaImpactFix.esp=1
SettlementMenuManager.esp=1
PWR.esp=1
Quad_RAWLauncher.esp=1
TrueStormsFO4-EarlierSunsets.esp=1
Standalone.esp=1
EferasShoulderBag.esp=1
AnS Wearable Backpacks and Pouches.esp=1
Minuteman_CB.esp=1
RightHandedHuntingRifle.esp=1
AzarPonytailHairstyles.esp=1
GaussRifleMk2.esp=1
tumbajamba Advanced Engineering.esp=1
GaussRifleMk2 - tAE - AWKCR.esp=1
combat_PA.esp=1
combat_PA - tAE - AWKCR.esp=1
BetterSettlersMortalPack.esp=1
BetterSettlersNoLollygagging.esp=1
Magnolia.esp=1
DX Commonwealth Shorts.esp=1
DX Vault Girl Shorts.esp=1
10mm.esp=1
dinoshelf.esp=1
railroad_uniform.esp=1
FusionCoreRefueler.esp=1
FusionGenerator.esp=1
emp_and_cryo_grenadefix.esp=1
Insignificant Object Remover.esp=1
3DNPC_FO4.esp=1
Eli_Faction Housing Overhaul - AiO.esp=1
IcebreakerCDO-Piper.esp=1
brotherhood of steel overhaul.esp=1
DPRailroadHQ.esp=1
CrimeTown.esp=1
TinaDeLucaSettlerVoiced.esp=1
TheCastle_CityOnTheLake.esp=1
ImmersiveGenericDialogues.esp=1
TrainBar.esp=1
Eli_Armour_Compendium.esp=1
FarHarborStory.esp=1
Goodfellow's Goodneighbor Defences.esp=1
WRVR.esp=1
DCEnhancedSecurity.esp=1
FemsheppingsMegaSurgeryCenterRenovated.esp=1
Goodfellow's Diamond City Defences.esp=1
Cotozic's Bunker Ravine.esp=1
AnotherBrickInTheWall.esp=1
Altairp's Animal Farm.esp=1
FlirtyCommonwealth.esp=1
FSS_Officer.esp=1
Wastelander's Cookbook.esp=1
ValdacilsItemSorting - Wastelander's Cookbook TAGS.esp=1
Better Cooking Stations.esp=1
DavidHunter.esp=1
DOOM1911.esp=1
More Smarter Companions Mod.esp=1
InstituteStory.esp=1
IcebreakerCDO-Settlements.esp=1
My_Minutemen.esp=1
ChoiceChopped.esp=1
Publick Occurrences Expanded.esp=1
BetterSettlersCCAPack2.0.esp=1
ImmersiveLoversEmbrace.esp=1
railroad_uniform_leveledList.esp=1
ArtilleryDbl.esp=1
stats - vault girl.esp=1
Enhanced Power Armor Durability.esp=1
155mm Howitzer M1.esp=1
NewCalibersValdacilsItemSortingPatch.esp=1
SkibsWeapons-REDUX.esp=1
keyNuker.esp=1
MY-VIS-KeyNuke-Patch.esp=1
CombatHazmatSuit.esp=1
PerfectPacify_Knockout.esp=1
R91AssaultRifle.esp=1
TransferSettlements.esp=1
My_Minutemen - AE - Valdacils Item Sorting Patch .esp=1
SpawnSettlerButton.esp=1
NoAffinityCooldown.esp=1
NoNegativeAffinityVanilla.esp=1
CompanionsGoHome_A.esp=1
ChoiceChopped VIS patch.esp=1
TurretStands.esp=1
CheatTerminal.esp=1
MilitarizedMinutemen.esp=1
XM50m1.esp=1
3DNPC_FO4Settler.esp=1
Mercenary.esp=1
B84sThemedResidentials.esp=1
WorkingFridges.esp=1
SimSettlements_AddOnPack_Defences_Brae.esp=1
SymbioticSettlements.esp=1
SimSettlements_AddOnPack_SimTowers_JtBryant.esp=1
CWSS Redux.esp=1
9mmPistol.esp=1
WattzLaserGun.esp=1
Crossbow.esp=1
mjp_PTRS41ATR.esp=1
Quad_Accelerator.esp=1
HolyMachete.esp=1
AxePack.esp=1
AxePackAWKCR.esp=1
WM Chinese Assault Rifle - Standalone.esp=1
HuntingShotgun.esp=1
EvilViking13_PatchworkSanctuaryBridge.esp=1
swordplugin.esp=1
ArtilleryFlare.esp=1
MilitiaGun_Release.esp=1
PCDugSIMAddon.esp=1
3DNPC_FO4Settler_SimSettlements.esp=1
SK_Leaders1.esp=1
JunkTown.esp=1
EvilViking13_WastelandWalls.esp=1
IndustrialCity_Sim_Settlements_Addon.esp=1
NXT Syringer ammunition.esp=1
CommonwealthFashionWeek.esp=1
Zappa.esp=1
Crossbow Craftable AWKCR.esp=1
Crossbow AWKCR Patch.esp=1
KSHairdos_oel.esp=1
Stm_DiamondCityExpansion.esp=1
DCE_female_body_replacer_EasyGirl.esp=1
WorkshopAmmoNewCalibersPatch.esp=1
K9TacticalHarness.esp=1
CROSS_GoreCrits.esp=1
CROSS_GoreCrits_FarHarborPatch.esp=1
MercenaryCBBEPatch.esp=1
CleanDoghouse.esp=1
Sandbag Fortifications - Version 2C.esp=1
10mmSMG.esp=1
WMCAK-NC-patch.esp=1
SimSettlements_XPAC_RiseOfTheCommonwealth.esp=1
SimSettlements_XPAC_IndustrialRevolution.esp=1
NoNegativeAffinitySeason.esp=0
 
Sorry for such a long list but I don't know which tools are available in the forums to make it a spoiler tag drop down. I just used fallrim to do some cleaning (reading instructions of course)and now it seems that while I cant go near Sanctuary/Red Rocket/Finch Farm, I can fast travel without a CTD 5 seconds later. Now if only Preston would give me the "taking independence" quest..........
 
Wow, look at all the armor and weapons mods.

Back up that save and then disable everything to do with armor and weapons. If that lets you back into your cities, It gives us a solid lead.

My theory is that you've got multiple W&A mods editing the same leveled item lists. A lot of our settlements use those lists to fill up spawned in lockers, loot bags, etc. And we know W&A mods can cause CTDs.

This might not be the problem, or it might not be the only problem (we'd be pretty lucky if its a universal solution) but it's a theory.

If it fixes the problem, start adding those mods back to your game until it breaks again. At that point we have a winner and can take it out back and shoot it.
 
Well I disabled all weapon and armor mods and tried to do a test run and it didn’t work. Tried disabling weapon and the armor mods....didn’t work. While I do agree that having so many waponbmods in particular is not a good thing, in my case it’s not the only thing. Perhaps I should wait until optimized builds are released? Those can be switched on mid play through right?

Regardless, it’s a good start and I’m currently working up the willpower to start all over again if need be. Any suggestions?
 
lets try only sim settlements and rotc. tame it back to the basics. if it still doesnt work, lets reenable stuff and see if you can inch into the settlement instead of stride.
 
Might be worth using the remote detonation tool on Red Rocket or Abernathy from the Concord side so that Sanctuary isn't loaded into memory yet. See if that let's you get closer to Sanctuary.
 
Disable sim settlements and rotc leads to most settlements still having most items in place of floating.........slowly inching towards sanctuary gets me farther than before but eventually leads to ctd. Saving while not having sim settlements/rotc and by extension all relying add-one also leads to ctd. Better overall
 
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Never thought about remote detonating from concord will try
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You might have to get a bit close than that - but just inch your way towards RR and keep testing the remote detonator.
 
Will do, sorry for trouble everyone. It’s just frustrating to start modding only to almost immediately experience the pitfalls. Being sick doesn’t help my patience either but I appreciate the fast and thorough help!
 
Sanctuary, Red Rocket, and Abernathy are unfortunately so close together that it's easy to put more content in that the game engine can push past what your system can handle. I would generally recommend only building one of those three up if you're not on a pretty decent PC.

The other thing I'd recommend in general once you get past this problem, is to change City Upgrades to manual. That way if a city is crashing for you, you can roll back that save and just leave it at a lower level. You'll still get access to all of the leveling plots and can enjoy that part of the gameplay.
 
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