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CTD when walking near or entering a settlement

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LCdr Frog

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As the title says, however, fast travelling causes no issues. But if I walk out of the settlement and try to walk back, CTD. It started to happens on a old save after the last patch. Those settlements are not huge, around 10 settlers. Can't find any common factors, So I'm at lost. LO attached.
 

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EgoJisto said:
After some investigating, I found that disabling AI (tai) actually lets me inside the affected area and I can move to the settlement. But then trying to save, load, toggle AI back crashes the game. I tried to disable the building plan with destruction of everything already built in the settlement and disable all of the Settlers in it to completely clean it up, then returning away from the affected area. Toggling AI back on didn't crash the game, but saving sure did.
I'm not sure this mod is to blame now at all. Now I don't even know where to go with such an issue.

Also moving far enough from the affected territory after being there crashes the game. This is awful.
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What’s does your mod list look like can you post up your plug-in page showing the load order and mods.
 
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Rigel said:
I've had this problem throughout the life of SS2 and also SS1. I've concluded that it happens if I advance towards a settlement too quickly, the game can't update the LOD (Level Of Detail) quickly enough and either the settlment appears to missing most of the plots or it does a CTD. When it happens, I reload, then I walk towards the settlement a short distance, pause a moment, walk a short ways, pause etc. At certain pauses I can see buildings appearing and I wait until it finishes. This way I'm able to walk in without it crashing.
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I’ve had this as well in a few settlements where if you pass by them to close you can crash the game but if you move slow enough for it to load in it was fine.
 
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XxA1xX said:
What’s does your mod list look like can you post up your plug-in page showing the load order and mods.
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Modlist, copied from LOOT for lacking a better tool for extracting a load order:
0 0 Fallout4.esm
1 1 DLCRobot.esm
2 2 DLCworkshop01.esm
3 3 DLCCoast.esm
4 4 DLCworkshop02.esm
5 5 DLCworkshop03.esm
6 6 DLCNukaWorld.esm
7 7 Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp
8 8 Companion Infinite Ammo and Unbreakable Power Armour.esm
254 FE 0 CIAUPA + UFO4P Patch.esm
9 9 XDI.esm
254 FE 1 MTM-DetectNPCItems.esl
10 a WorkshopFramework.esm
11 b Arbitration - Resources.esm
254 FE 2 AORobcoReconScope.esl
12 c HUDFramework.esm
13 d SS2.esm
14 e Provisioner Tracker.esp
15 f SS2Extended.esp
16 10 Clarity.esp
17 11 AlootHomePlate.esp
18 12 Minutemen Paint Job.esp
19 13 Better Power Armor - Extended.esp
20 14 Better Locational Damage.esp
21 15 WD_Pistol_Renimation_Pack.esp
22 16 Better Power Armor - BLD - Patch.esp
23 17 BLD - Leveled Lists - DLC.esp
24 18 EquilibriumWeapons.esp
25 19 Better Locational Damage - DLC_Automatron.esp
26 1a Better Locational Damage - DLC_WWorkshop.esp
27 1b Better Perks.esp
28 1c Better VATS - No Reduction.esp
29 1d NoCombatMusic.esp
30 1e JetPackDrain10.esp
31 1f PowerArmorDrain05.esp
32 20 More Where That Came From - Classic.esp
33 21 Craftable Armor Size - Fix Material Requirements.esp
34 22 Craftable Armor Size.esp
254 FE 3 ArmorClothingOverhaulVBP.esp
35 23 BostonFPSFixAIO.esp
36 24 LBPAC.esp
37 25 Consistent Power Armor Overhaul.esp
38 26 LBPAC CPAO Patch.esp
39 27 PaladinBaileyRedRocket.esp
40 28 W.A.T.Minutemen.esp
41 29 Glock86.esp
42 2a F4NV-AMR.esp
43 2b 9mmPistol.esp
44 2c F4NVServiceRifleRedux.esp
45 2d WattzLaserGun.esp
46 2e ClassicSniper.esp
47 2f EM2.esp
48 30 F4UP - Boston FPS Fix Patch.esp
49 31 T65PA.esp
50 32 HuntingShotgun.esp
51 33 DP_CaravanShotgun.esp
52 34 ImmersiveAnimationFramework.esp
53 35 WM Chinese Assault Rifle - Standalone.esp
54 36 MAID_by_Justice.esp
55 37 Complex Vendors.esp
254 FE 4 WattzLaserGunPAFootstepFix.esp
56 38 F4CW10mmSMG.esp
57 39 DOOMThatGun.esp
58 3a DOOM1911.esp
59 3b seburoCX.esp
60 3c RedShiftPowerArmor.esp
61 3d SalvageBeacons.esp
Ruddy's Simple Sorter 01.esp
62 3e Better Locational Damage - DLC_Far_Harbor.esp
63 3f WD_44.esp
Ruddy's Simple Sorter 03.esp
64 40 Ruddy's Simple Sorter 05.esp
Ruddy's Simple Sorter 04.esp
Ruddy's Simple Sorter.esp
Ruddy's Simple Sorter 02.esp
65 41 Better Chems.esp
66 42 Better Locational Damage - DLC_Nuka_World.esp
67 43 Gasmask Fix.esp
254 FE 5 IAF - Far Harbor & Nuka World.esp
68 44 Censor_Comments.esp
69 45 EasyLockpicking.esp
70 46 NoNegativeAffinityVanilla.esp
71 47 Classic Fallout Music.esp
72 48 Classic Fallout Music Far Harbor.esp
73 49 Classic Fallout Music NukaWorld.esp
254 FE 6 ACOVBP_WATM.esp
74 4a Arbitration - Button Lowered Weapons.esp
75 4b Loot Logic Scrounger Fortune Finder rebalance.esp
76 4c mr Loot Logic and Reduction.esp
77 4d RustDevilRedux.esp
78 4e InstitWeapPosit.esp
79 4f No Aggro Impact Landing.esp
80 50 RAW INPUT.esp
254 FE 7 Flicker Fixer.esp
81 51 ClassicSniperSounds.esp
82 52 Keep Radiants In Commonwealth.esp
83 53 Keep Radiants in Commonwealth - UF4P Patch.esp
84 54 EasyHacking.esp
85 55 ApocalypticWeather.esp
86 56 Clarity - Darker Nights.esp
87 57 Pip-Boy Flashlight.esp
88 58 InteriorsEnhanced-All-In-One.esp
89 59 StartMeUp.esp
 
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Only thing I see that I’ve heard issue with is BLD that can cause crashing and start me up that can mess up the starting of ss2 depending on the options used. What does the complex vendors mod do ? I’ll have to look that up but honestly besides the two I don’t see anything that I know would be an issue.
 
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Yeah I never put that kinda time into this game or get attached to a save. With Bethesda games you gotta learn to restart a game sometimes. Matter of fact it’s what I’m doing with Skyrim this weekend deleted a 3 day long game and gutted a 405 mod list to redo a bunch of stuff , just to try a few new mods. Should be a fun couple days.
 
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5500hrs is impressive , I have 1500hrs in Fo4 and around 2000hrs in Skyrim probably 10 game completes in each case. Generally put around 72-150 hrs max a play through in any one save. I like to change up my mod list every time a start a new save but I keep a few specific mods along the way.

can’t wait for conquers 2.0 so I can wreck the wasteland again.
 
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Some new development. New playthrough. Cleared out Jamaica Plains. Imported a WSFW settlement with a bunch of level 3 plots, but I haven't sent any settler there. Played for some time then came back in the area. So while walking in the vicinity of JP, hard crash, need to restart computer. All troublesome settlements have one thing in common, WSFW import with fully develloped plots. But, I can still fast travel into the settlement without any problem... Is there some kind of script which start when the player get near a settlement?
 
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LCdr Frog said:
Some new development. New playthrough. Cleared out Jamaica Plains. Imported a WSFW settlement with a bunch of level 3 plots, but I haven't sent any settler there. Played for some time then came back in the area. So while walking in the vicinity of JP, hard crash, need to restart computer. All troublesome settlements have one thing in common, WSFW import with fully develloped plots. But, I can still fast travel into the settlement without any problem... Is there some kind of script which start when the player get near a settlement?
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It can run stuff when you get close cause the upgrades are set to run when you visit. You could try turning upgrades to manual that way nothing fires off when approaching except the hud and resources.
 
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LCdr Frog said:
Will give it a try, although "Check power grid" tool didn't show any error.
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If you have transfer settlement and can get close enough to open the workshop it checks the power grid and can fix it letting you redo it. Maybe the plan had a broken power grid when it was exported or something.
 
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XxA1xX said:
If you have transfer settlement and can get close enough to open the workshop it checks the power grid and can fix it letting you redo it. Maybe the plan had a broken power grid when it was exported or something.
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The most baffling is: I CTD when walking near, but I can fast travel or even save, quit and reload within the settlement without any problem. Usualy, I just scrap all plots and start over. I always check for power grid corruption, and there is nothing to find there.
 
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