Wow that looks like some formula. Thanks for your detailed response. I have previously assumed Sime settlements is very safe for load order especially as its so popular. I have no idea if its the recent add ons I got for plots of the sim settlements website which directed me to nexus. maybe its clashing with the mega pack. Disabling each one individually now to see which it is
The main crash happens when travelling via console to diamond city or anywhere nearby like backstreet apparel. I am using NM and this is the load order. I am using diamond city expansion but this is not the issue. it works. I initially thought It was outcasts and remnants but I am no sure
Fallout4.esm=1
DLCRobot.esm=1
DLCworkshop01.esm=1
DLCCoast.esm=1
DLCworkshop02.esm=1
DLCworkshop03.esm=1
DLCNukaWorld.esm=1
Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp=1
EthreonMasterPlan.esm=1
ArmorKeywords.esm=1
TrueStormsFO4.esm=1
HUDFramework.esm=1
AAF.esm=1
TBOSBodyTalk2LooksMenu.esl=1
Z_Architect.esm=1
Loads.esm=1
NewCalibers.esp=1
WorkshopFramework.esm=1
SimSettlements.esm=1
Homemaker.esm=1
NuCa Ola Cafe for Sim Settlements by Iztari.esl=0
SettlementKeywords.esm=1
FCOM.esp=1
OVT.esp=1
BetterSettlersNoLollygagging.esp=1
Sim Settlements Triggermen Faction Pack.esp=0
UnionJack.esp=1
Vivid Weathers - FO4.esp=1
TrueStormsFO4-FarHarbor.esp=1
Vivid Weathers - FO4 - Far Harbor.esp=1
WeatherSynergy-FarHarbor.esp=1
TrueStormsFO4-EarlierSunsetsFH.esp=1
Vivid Fallout - All in One - Best Choice.esp=1
SettlementMenuManager.esp=1
SimSettlements_railroadPack_addon.esp=0
BoarsInstitutePack.esp=0
SettleObjExpandPack.esp=1
NoWeaponDrop.esp=1
SRM_Corpse6.esp=1
IndustrialCity_Sim_Settlements_Addon.esp=0
AnS Wearable Backpacks and Pouches.esp=1
AnS Wearable Backpacks and Pouches - Ballistic Weave.esp=1
AnS Wearable Backpacks and Pouches - No Crafting Perks.esp=1
woodysWastelandStuff.esp=1
XnjguyFilledMods_AIO.esp=1
Z_Horizon_Loot_Respawn.esp=1
Z_Horizon_Loot_Respawn_DLC.esp=1
AllSetsExtended.esp=1
PlayerComments.esp=1
3dscopes.esp=1
Weaponsmith Extended 2.esp=1
WorkshopRearranged.esp=1
NukaWorldReborn.esp=1
WOTC.esp=1
SRMArena.esp=1
VanillaExtensions.esp=1
OutcastsAndRemnants.esp=1
Bigger Settlements-height limit and spawn points.esp=1
InteriorsEnhanced-All-In-One.esp=1
Farm.esp=1
Eli_Armour_Compendium.esp=1
Depravity.esp=1
AA FusionCityRising.esp=1
Vivid Weathers - FO4 - Quest.esp=1
SimSettlements_XPAC_Conqueror.esp=1
Snappy_HouseK.esp=1
TBHExtended.esp=1
Farm_CP_SE_Neutered_Combo.esp=1
Nuka World Bottle Fix.esp=1
Vivid Waters.esp=1
MilitarizedMinutemen.esp=0
ProjectValkyrie.esp=1
MilitarisedMinutemen_PatchesAddon.esp=0
Faction Addon Minutemen.esp=1
RS_Sim_AddOn.esp=0
F4NVServiceRifleRedux.esp=1
WVSimSAddon.esp=0
FO4 NPCs Travel.esp=1
SimSettlementsAddOnPack - RaiderRefugees.esp=0
AtomicAnnieLagrieGun.esp=1
Sandbag Fortifications - Version 2C.esp=1
AkaWaterWorld.esp=1
GunnerConq.esp=0
home_improvement_all.esp=0
Vivid Weathers - Nuka World.esp=1
10mmRevolver.esp=1
Nuka-Cola Flavors for the Commonwealth.esp=1
ASVektor.esp=1
BrighterSettlementLights.esp=1
BuildableBurningCampfires.esp=1
CBBE.esp=1
Campsite.esp=1
Campsite-Full-Sleep.esp=1
Crafting Mastery - Patch Sim Settlements.esp=0
Crafting Mastery.esp=1
Crafting Mastery - AE Patch.esp=1
Crafting Mastery - Patch Loads of Ammo.esp=1
DarkerNights.esp=1
WeatherSynergy-TruePriority-N.esp=1
TrueStormsFO4-GlowingSeaExtraRads.esp=1
TrueStormsFO4-EarlierSunsets.esp=1
DarkerNightsDetection.esp=1
Yona_Weapon_DefenseGun.esp=1
EasyHacking.esp=1
FO4 Seasons - Summer - AllDLC.esp=1
FOW.esp=1
FunctionalDisplays.esp=1
FunctionalDisplays-AID-VIS.esp=1
FunctionalDisplays-Patch-DLC-ALL-VIS.esp=1
FunctionalDisplays-Collectibles.esp=1
FunctionalDisplays-MISC-VIS.esp=1
NukaFridge_Test1.esp=1
AzarPonytailHairstyles.esp=1
G67CombatRifleReplacer.esp=1
BattleRifle.esp=1
GlovesOfTheCommonwealth.esp=1
Grasslands - Healthy.esp=1
Ground_Vanilla.esp=1
DD_bleu_Ump_Extreme_Lore_friendly_edition.esp=1
Homemaker - Streetlights Use Passive Power.esp=1
Homemaker - Unlocked Institute Objects.esp=1
Marmo1233 - Immersive Settlers.esp=1
DD_Khassar_De_Templari_Increased_build.esp=1
LtC_LegalizedGrow01.esp=0
MJC_Con_Cells.esp=0
WoodenPrefabsExtended.esp=1
Kraggles - Structures.esp=1
SSEX.esp=1
SimSettlements_MegaPack_YearThree.esp=1
SimSettlements_AddOnPack_SimTowers_JtBryant.esp=0
Loads of Ammo - Leveled Lists.esp=1
LooksMenu.esp=1
mjp_PTRS41ATR.esp=1
No More Fake Puddles - Nuka World 1-0.esp=1
OCDecorator - No Experience.esp=1
OCDecorator.esp=1
OCDecoratorDLC.esp=1
OCDispenser.esp=1
Boats.esp=1
Realistic Roads - Black Asphalt.esp=1
RedRocketReborn.esp=1
3dscopes-g67.esp=1
3dscopes-g67rep-patch.esp=1
3dscopes-ump.esp=1
Edit_Hancock.esp=1
StaticHarvestCollection.esp=1
Summer Roses.esp=1
CabinInTheWoods.esp=1
M14.esp=1
3dscopes-m14.esp=1
M2216.esp=1
Thematic and Practical.esp=1
TransferSettlements.esp=1
Ground_Farm.esp=1
Farm_CP_BeastMaster.esp=0
Crafting Mastery - Patch Weaponsmith Extended.esp=1
Crafting Mastery - VIS Patch.esp=1
NoTwigs.esp=1
StartMeUp.esp=1
g2m_Workshop_Nexus.esp=1
STRAC Hats.esp=1
Scrap Everything - Ultimate Edition.esp=1
BetterSettlers.esp=1
BetterSettlersMortalSoldiersPack.esp=1
BetterSettlersCCAPack2.0.esp=1
Farm_CP_ScrapEverything_UE.esp=1
Z_Horizon.esp=1
Z_Architect_Extras.esp=1
Z_Extras.esp=1
EAC-Horizon-Patch.esp=1
CC-BrandedAttire-Horizon.esp=0
Z_Horizon_DEFUI.esp=1
Z_Horizon_DLC_Automatron.esp=1
Z_Horizon_DLC_FarHarbor.esp=1
Z_Horizon_DLC_Nuka.esp=1
Z_Horizon_DLC_Workshop01.esp=1
Z_Horizon_DLC_Workshop02.esp=1
Z_Horizon_DLC_Workshop03.esp=1
Z_Horizon_Patch_Homemaker.esp=1
Z_Horizon_Timescale.esp=1
Ground_CP_Horizon.esp=1
MilitarizedMinutemen-Horizon_PatchBlue.esp=0
Z_Architect_EnhancedSettlements.esp=1
Z_Architect_EnhancedSettlements_DLC.esp=1
Z_Architect_HomePlate.esp=1
Pip-Boy Flashlight.esp=1
ReGrowth Overhaul 10.esp=1
Stm_DiamondCityExpansion.esp=1
It is possible to try an duplicate that glitch i'm trying to now but it seems if I disable sim settlements ican fast travel to area if not I cant
thanks again for help much appreciated