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Black King, White Knight unable to progress

RhysM

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Morning all,
Tried going about this a few ways, but after I speak to the settler at concord to gather the caps, I get a side mission to clear out Thicket Excavations (thought it might be random, so tried 3 times and got the same location). Clear out everyone, get the unsigned invoice for the corpse, then... nothing. Try to talk to Allison and just get generic dialogue with no conversation interaction.

I have tried:
  • Going through to make sure everything is dead
  • Leaving the game running for 10 minutes idle to see if a script needed triggering
  • Calling in allies to see if there are any enemies I missed
  • Using the unsigned invoice item (can't be equipped)
  • Clipping through walls to see if people are getting stuck somewhere

My next go is to pre-clear the location and see if it spawns this optional stage at a different location, but is there just something else that I am missing, or could be doing for this quest?
 
Solution
I have discovered why this is an issue. The way the quest is coded, the trigger for the "kill the raiders" never fires because Thicket Excavations is already in the loaded area. To get around this until this bug is patched, go far enough to the west for Thicket Excavations to unload, like Gorski Cabin. Now when you go to Thicket Excavations the quest will continue like normal.
The location for this objective is semi-random. I just did it at Hardware Town, for example. But, yes, after collecting the invoice you should be able to have a conversation with Allison. Not sure of ideas other than what you've tried, though.
If you want to get a different location, though, you may need to roll back to before the quest itself launches. (Note: I am not on the SS2 team and I'm not versed in how such quests are set up, so take advice with a dash of "he may be wrong.")
 
The location for this objective is semi-random. I just did it at Hardware Town, for example. But, yes, after collecting the invoice you should be able to have a conversation with Allison. Not sure of ideas other than what you've tried, though.
If you want to get a different location, though, you may need to roll back to before the quest itself launches. (Note: I am not on the SS2 team and I'm not versed in how such quests are set up, so take advice with a dash of "he may be wrong.")
Yeah, a rollback ended up working. The invoice is spawned on the raider as soon as you accept the quest, not when the optional objective is set as quest stage. I still got the same location, but this time the quest progressed, so I can move on a happy gamer.
 
The location for this objective is semi-random. I just did it at Hardware Town, for example. But, yes, after collecting the invoice you should be able to have a conversation with Allison. Not sure of ideas other than what you've tried, though.
If you want to get a different location, though, you may need to roll back to before the quest itself launches. (Note: I am not on the SS2 team and I'm not versed in how such quests are set up, so take advice with a dash of "he may be wrong.")
How far back would this be, do you think - not to before any of the NLTC quests start, I hope? I've rolled back to a save twice now where I'm still on "The Green Jewel Defense", speak to Lydia to wrap that one up and trigger "Black King, White Knight", and three times now I've been sent to Thicket Excavations, and after I take the invoice, the quest pointer remains on the corpse and Allison doesn't have any dialogue.

Does it lock me out of any options in the rest of the quest if I give up and just go on with the non-optional parts?
 
Okay I know this forum is rather old but for any like myself coming here looking for answers I will offer what worked for me. If you get the Thickets Excavation go ahead and go through and kill the guy with the invoice. If she will not talk to you use the console commands below and it should work.
Open up the console and type these in.

setstage ss2c3_nltc03 130

Close the console and let Allison speak then open the console again

setstage ss2c3_nltc03 150

She should now be willing to speak with you. Hope this helps someone else.
 
Okay I know this forum is rather old but for any like myself coming here looking for answers I will offer what worked for me. If you get the Thickets Excavation go ahead and go through and kill the guy with the invoice. If she will not talk to you use the console commands below and it should work.
Open up the console and type these in.

setstage ss2c3_nltc03 130

Close the console and let Allison speak then open the console again

setstage ss2c3_nltc03 150

She should now be willing to speak with you. Hope this helps someone else.
I had this exact same problem and it was driving me up the wall. Lol. I can confirm that this works perfectly. Thank you!
 
Okay I know this forum is rather old but for any like myself coming here looking for answers I will offer what worked for me. If you get the Thickets Excavation go ahead and go through and kill the guy with the invoice. If she will not talk to you use the console commands below and it should work.
Open up the console and type these in.

setstage ss2c3_nltc03 130

Close the console and let Allison speak then open the console again

setstage ss2c3_nltc03 150

She should now be willing to speak with you. Hope this helps someone else.
To make it official, also set stage 140.
setstage ss2c3_nltc03 130
Close the console and let Allison speak then open the console again.

setstage ss2c3_nltc03 140
setstage ss2c3_nltc03 150

See next post.
 
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I have discovered why this is an issue. The way the quest is coded, the trigger for the "kill the raiders" never fires because Thicket Excavations is already in the loaded area. To get around this until this bug is patched, go far enough to the west for Thicket Excavations to unload, like Gorski Cabin. Now when you go to Thicket Excavations the quest will continue like normal.
 
Solution
This only happens if the quest takes you to Thicket, right?
Edit: nevermind, I guess it's the only one that's outdoors, and if it wasn't, the same would apply
 
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I have discovered why this is an issue. The way the quest is coded, the trigger for the "kill the raiders" never fires because Thicket Excavations is already in the loaded area. To get around this until this bug is patched, go far enough to the west for Thicket Excavations to unload, like Gorski Cabin. Now when you go to Thicket Excavations the quest will continue like normal.
This is the solution to this problem.
 
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