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Will Fallout 5 even be on the new generation of consoles (PS5/XBSX)?

CerebralHawk

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Starfield is Bethesda's next big project, an all-new IP ostensibly set in space, and it's been mostly confirmed as the next major release from Bethesda Game Studios. We were hoping for it this year, since it's been five years since Fallout 4, which came out just four years after Skyrim, which came out an even shorter three years after Fallout 3, which came out just two years after Oblivion. Bethesda has broken their "previous time + 1 year" pattern, if you're not counting side games like The Elder Scrolls Online, Fallout Shelter, that Elder Scrolls card game, and Fallout 76.

But even if Starfield comes out next year, in 2021, we're probably looking at at least five or six years before The Elder Scrolls VI, and at that point, both Microsoft and Sony will be working on the next Xbox and PlayStation already. Considering the Xbox 360 came out in 2006 and the PlayStation 3 in 2007, and the Xbox One came out in 2013 and the PlayStation 4, around the same time. Consider also that midway through last cycle, we also got the Xbox One X and the PlayStation 4 Pro, not to mention PSVR. So last generation was busy, but we still got the current systems about seven years later. So 2027 is a reasonable time for PS6 and Xbox Whatever to come out. (Not dissing Xbox, but its naming scheme makes it hard to predict the name of the next one. "Xbox Zero" and "Xbox Halo" are both as reasonable as "Xbox Two" or "Xbox Infinity.") If Starfield comes out in 2021, and The Elder Scrolls VI comes out in 2027, it could come out on both PS5/XBSX and PS6 and the next Xbox, kind of like Cyberpunk 2077 is doing in a couple weeks for current and last gen systems.

But wait. What if Bethesda trolls us all, and it turns out they were working on Starfield and The Elder Scrolls VI at the same time? How cool would that be? Well, they aren't going to cannibalize Starfield sales by dropping The Elder Scrolls VI. That would be dumb. So, here's how the troll plays out. E3 2021, Starfield trailer followed by typical Bethesda November release date. November 2021, Starfield drops. 2022, we get 3–5 expansions for Starfield. E3 2022, they talk about Starfield and its expansions, and tease the last one, which is huge. E3 2023, Elder Scrolls VI trailer... and November 2023 release date. An almost unprecedented two year turnaround.

Of course, you could say they're working on all three (Starfield, The Elder Scrolls VI, and Fallout 5) and apply the same logic to get Fallout 5 out by 2025, well within the PS5/XBSX lifetime, but it's highly unlikely that Bethesda Game Studios is working on three AAA games at once. It's highly unlikely, though a bit further from impossible, that they're working on two at once.

However you cut it, while PlayStation fans are fearing they won't see a Fallout release on PS5, Xbox fans shouldn't be much more hopeful.

So, how should Bethesda make up for a lack of new Fallout on the current generation?

Let's address the elephant in the room. Todd Howard doesn't want to remake the old games. So, backwards compatibility to allow Fallout 3: Game of the Year Edition and Fallout 4: SPECIAL Edition to play on XBSX is probably a priority. Oddly, backward compatibility has been announced for Skyrim but not Fallout 4, which is suspicious as hell. Yeah, they want Skyrim on everything, ha ha, that's the joke, but really, Fallout 4 is the newer title and deserves more attention. Plus, it was practically DOA on XB1, so making it playable/completable on XBSX should be a priority. I wonder if there'll be a new edition of Fallout 4 for XBSX. Consider the Creation Club content. Most of it was shit, but what if they integrated the best of it with the base/SPECIAL game? Take the coffee/brick pack, no quest from the beginning, but you can still get the franchise kit, and there's a way to hear about it. Or the dogs. You shouldn't get a dozen quests out of the Vault, but you should be able to stumble upon the dogs out in the wild wherever they all are (I know about the two I got) and adopt them. The settlement ambush kit is another one that should be included. And the Power Armor, Pip-Boy, armor, and weapon skins. Maybe a couple of the extra guns. Or, if Bethesda wanna really swing for the fences... maybe include Sim Settlements 2 when it's done? How awesome would that be? I dunno. Highlighting it in the news pane is pretty epic.

They'll probably port Fallout Shelter and Fallout 76 to at least the XBSX, because those do make money, and like Fortnite, they're kind of everywhere already anyway. Except Apple, because they "think different."

It sure would be nice to see a remake of Fallout 3 and Fallout New Vegas using the Fallout 4 engine, though. A bundle of the two of them together, with all their DLC, for $60, would probably sell pretty well for the XBSX, and PS5 as well (why not? both games were originally licensed to Sony, no reason they shouldn't be again). I'd drop $40 on the set for PC without a second thought, and would consider it at higher price points.

Going back to Fallout 5... I wonder if they're even thinking about it or where it'll be set or anything like that. I have a great idea for it, I'll probably share in a future thread.
 
Starfield 2021
elder scrolls 6 2024-2025
fallout 5 2030
this was my exact guess in the Bethesda forums in 2018 when we got to see the starfield and es6 teasers at e3 I still stand by this guess as starfield seems to be on deck for 2021. Only reason for the es6 2024 guess is that I’m pretty sure work began on it around 2018 probably just a small team doing the leg work but still in preproduction already. I think starfield was probably mostly completed and ready for this year but the Microsoft Zenimax purchase forced them to release a broken fo76 in a cash grab to make them selfs looks more valuable slowing starfields production.

I really hope now that all the info is out about Microsoft buying them they will get back to focusing on game production, it seems they have been hiring a lot of people to fix and redo a lot of their game engine stuff animations and npc Ai so they seem to be trying to improve their brand now. The 10 plus years between games is pissing me off though with their claims of we want people to play our games 10 years. In 10 years people who played Skyrim will have forgot Bethesda even existed if all they play is elder scrolls games.
 
We know that Bethesda works on two games at once. When one is in full production one is in pre production. Those are different skill sets anyway.

And while not official, Starfield is strongly believed to be coming next year. And ES6 is also confirmed to be the following project and has been in the works for close to two years (from a recent interview). Keep in mind those two years are mostly pre-prod. Best guess is Fallout 5 would follow this.

Looking at BGS main releases (ES 3, 4, 5 and Fallout 3, 4, 76) We’re seeing an average of 3 years between each games, 4 at worse. So...

Starfield 2021
Elder Scrolls 6 2024-2025
Fallout 5 2027-2029.

That looks like the range to expect when looking at the history of their releases. That being said, Microsoft could change all of that. With the money and power behind them, it might allow them to work differently. If there is any change brought by Microsoft, it would be to heave slightly more frequent releases (not the other way around) but that’s obviously speculation.
 
I think starfield was probably mostly completed and ready for this year but the Microsoft Zenimax purchase forced them to release a broken fo76 in a cash grab to make them selfs looks more valuable slowing starfields production.
I agree Starfield was probably ready for a 2020 release. The only thing that really bothers me about that prediction is the PS5 and Xbox Series S|X launch. Bethesda would have loved to be a launch partner for at least the Xbox Series S|X as Microsoft owns them now. Having a brand-new Bethesda game as a launch title would have been huge for Microsoft, especially if it wasn't on PS5, and I think that would have trumped any Fallout 76 bulls...pit.

I really hope now that all the info is out about Microsoft buying them they will get back to focusing on game production, it seems they have been hiring a lot of people to fix and redo a lot of their game engine stuff animations and npc Ai so they seem to be trying to improve their brand now.
Agreed. The last decade for Bethesda, despite Skyrim, has not been about quality games, but about acquisitions. Now that they themselves have been acquired, they can stop focusing on that (because they basically can't anymore) and focus on what they do best: making games. I just hope, and I think you agree based on your 76 rant, that they stop making these freemium/subscription games and go back to making games like Fallout 4 and Skyrim.
 
I agree Starfield was probably ready for a 2020 release. The only thing that really bothers me about that prediction is the PS5 and Xbox Series S|X launch. Bethesda would have loved to be a launch partner for at least the Xbox Series S|X as Microsoft owns them now. Having a brand-new Bethesda game as a launch title would have been huge for Microsoft, especially if it wasn't on PS5, and I think that would have trumped any Fallout 76 bulls...pit.


Agreed. The last decade for Bethesda, despite Skyrim, has not been about quality games, but about acquisitions. Now that they themselves have been acquired, they can stop focusing on that (because they basically can't anymore) and focus on what they do best: making games. I just hope, and I think you agree based on your 76 rant, that they stop making these freemium/subscription games and go back to making games like Fallout 4 and Skyrim.
Yeah the online games is not their thing the worse part is if you ever played or looked at eso from Zenimax that game is so good in terms of npcs playable areas and it all seems to more or less work right. They should have let zenimax do the fallout multiplayer and stuck to what they can do.

starfield better be good is all I know cause I’m a huge elder scrolls fan since oblivion even played morrowind. And fallout I’ve played new Vegas and fallout 4. I’d rather they release these 2 games every 3 to 5 years and have their other studios making new ips so we get games better and more often.
 
They should have let zenimax do the fallout multiplayer and stuck to what they can do.
Zenimax is Bethesda, in much the same way Alphabet is Google, and both parent companies were created for basically the same reason. Bethesda created Zenimax, they weren't acquired by another company.

Fallout 76 was actually developed by Bethesda Game Studios Austin (as in, Austin, Texas), which was formerly known as BattleCry Studios. However, BattleCry, the game they were named after, was never completed. After they were acquired by Zenimax and rebranded to BGS Austin, they were given the role of making Fallout 4 into a multiplayer game. Originally that was the plan, to make a multiplayer Fallout 4; however, Fallout 76 ended up becoming its own thing.

In a sense, Fallout 76 is more like Fallout: New Vegas than fans would like to admit. Like New Vegas, 76 was based on the previous mainline game in the series, and a third party took its engine to make a new game that took the series in a new direction. Not a good direction this time, but still, an effort was made, whether we appreciate the effort or not.

Worth noting that the same thing has unofficially happened to the last three Elder Scrolls games, though only the last one gained any traction. A German developer has been making a sister franchise to The Elder Scrolls. Since Morrowind, they've been making these mods that install on top of the game, and have their own .EXE that runs their mod as its own game. The first two, which run on top of Morrowind and Oblivion, respectively, are only available in German, though English subtitles are available. The third one, based on Skyrim, which you may have heard of, Enderal, is available in English as well as German. These stories are completely unrelated to The Elder Scrolls, and use mostly their own assets, though you will spot some Skyrim assets here and there. It's a darker game, for example there is a rape scene (heard, thankfully not seen) and some other dark elements (kids dying, for example). That said, it isn't an adult game, though kids who played Skyrim against the M rating would be bored with Enderal's long dialogue scenes long before they got to "the good parts." It's more of a true RPG, making you more of a clean slate and giving you taller, more exclusive skill trees with hidden bonuses for combining two or three of certain ones in certain ways. For example sneak with archery (you should have known that) and fire magic with sword skills. No fast travel, though it has a kind of carriage system, and teleport spells. The world doesn't level with you, and there are a couple areas that will put you in your place even if you're high level. Exploration is encouraged, albeit cautiously. A few other systems are changed from Skyrim as well. In short, Enderal is in many ways way better than Skyrim, in the same way New Vegas was better than Fallout 3, and just like with Fallout 3, there are solid arguments for the opposite conclusion. (Wow, what a tangent. But, if you have a PC copy of "Oldrim" floating around, it's worth grabbing Enderal. If nothing else... it's way better than Fallout 76, though, what isn't?)
 
yeah i understand zenimax as a whole but their zenimax studio is who did eso not any Bethesda studios as far as i am aware. and yeah i remember reading about the Texas studio being the ones to make the fo76 game. i was and still am super pissed i spent over 200 bucks on the special edition of that game ( the helmet is cool though but not 200 bucks cool ) i played 3 hrs took a deep breath and vowed to never play that again. after waste landers i tried it and it added some life to it but still not enough. the game should have shipped with waste landers as core game play probably even with brotherhood as well.

have not tried enderal yet watched a few videos on it looks decent but i started putting in a lot more time on newer games and eventually when cyberpunk hits in a few weeks that's what ill be playing for the foreseeable future. though once ss2 gets more content ill play more again. at the moment I'm playing assassins creed Valhalla, a heavily moded 4k Skyrim se , and a slightly moded fo4 4k mostly ultra.

got my hands on a rtx 3090 ftw3 evga card last week its been doing a great job replacing my old gear. just need a better tv soon but 3k for that lg 77 inch oled is crazy when its under 2k maybe next year.
 
I am sorry you spent money on 76. Bethesda owes you a few apologies on that count.

When 76 was announced, I defended it on forums. I liked what Todd Howard said about it. I thought the trailer looked good, and I saw potential. I preordered the game, just like I did with Fallout 4. However, when they shipped all those influencers out to West Virginia to that hotel from the game, and had them record footage of them playing the game... I watched one of them, and about 20 minutes in, I stopped the video — I was planning on watching the whole 3 hour stream — and canceled my preorder. Bethesda still let me into the beta, as a gesture of good will and I suppose hoping I'd preorder again. I found myself liking it more than I expected, but it was held back by stuff that didn't have to be there, like the survival and weapon/armor condition stuff. That would be fine as an advanced option, but some people play games for fun, not to micro manage their character, and it's a shame Bethesda lost sight of that. Actually what really got me to uninstall the beta and swear off the game permanently, was an obstacle course to join some faction, and the game's ageing physics engine kept holding me back. I was being hindered by invisible walls, and kept falling through holes in the floor I couldn't see. The game was punishing me for its own faults. That, not the survival stuff, got me out of the game.

Curious about Assassin's Creed Valhalla. The first AC really put me off the series, though playing the Ezio series (2 and its spinoffs) I see they fixed a lot of problems. And the games are fun, I just can't stick with them. The main quests are still overly difficult, with the exploration (and secret finding) getting old after a while. As far as gaming hardware, I'm happy with my AMD Radeon something 280... it's so old, the software can't even tell exactly what it is. I remember it had 3GB of video memory, though. It was an upper mid-range card in 2016 when I bought it. Both monitor and TV are 1080p, and it does Fallout 4 in 1080p pretty well (60FPS average on high settings) so I don't have many complaints. I'm afraid when new games come out, my card won't be enough, but fortunately I haven't run into that problem with games I want to play. Getting the frames I'd want in 4K seems to be where the challenge lies; as long as my screens stay 1080p, I should be good for a while longer.
 
Yeah it’s all good now I just refuse to let it go is all. But I’ve been an assassins creed fan for a while I think you either like it or don’t cause the story has slowly changed the past few years and some hate it.

back on subject though hopefully fo5 comes out on this system cycle , and hopefully I can get my hands on an Xbox series x before it comes out as well.
 
Hi there, man. I'm a fan of assassin's creed too. Btw, what's your favorite one? I really love Assassin's Creed III. I think it has the most captivating plot. Anyway, as for FO5, I hope it will be on newgen consoles. I really hope so. Btw, I saw the news about it here https://zumroad.com/game. It's said that there's a high probability of Fallout 5 coming out for the newgen consoles. Anyway, we'll see. All we have is hope. So, let's keep the topic updated. Waiting for your replies. Best wishes
 
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Hi there, man. I'm a fan of assassin's creed too. Btw, what's your favorite one? I really love Assassin's Creed III. I think it has the most captivating plot. Anyway, as for FO5, I hope it will be on newgen consoles.
As far as the newer ones I liked origins older ones probably black flag and people will hate it but I loved unity I finished up the one that came out last year but it didn’t really do it for me. Rumor is the newest assassins creed game is going to be live service so thinking the franchise maybe a no go for me next game.
 
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