Question Upgrading Advanced Industrial Plots

[Cataphractoi]

I've looked everywhere but I can't seem to find an answer to this: what exactly are the conditions for upgrading advanced industrial plots? I realize they need a certain amount of resources in the stockpile, and that's not what I'm asking about. Sometimes I'll have enough or even more than enough to upgrade a plot in the stockpile, but it's like the plot never checks to see if it has enough to do so and the option to upgrade just doesn't appear. I have one plot- a Crusher- that's just been sitting there for ages with enough items to upgrade, but I had no option to do it. It was one of the first plots I upgraded to level 2, and I immediately topped it off with enough common and uncommon components for the next upgrade, but it took like 24 real time hours of gameplay before the plot noticed it could be upgraded.

It's not the only plot I have this problem with, either. I can't seem to upgrade my pumping station to a filtration plant despite it having more than enough water to upgrade, and a coal pit in the same settlement. It's been sitting there as long as the Crusher above, and still can't upgrade. Meanwhile, half the plots I built in another settlement have reached level 2 while this plot is still sitting there waiting for its third upgrade. It was a pumping station already when I built the other plots. Similarly, four of the plots in that other settlement seem to be stuck at level one.

Is there any conditions besides the stockpile that count towards upgrading, or a method of forcing them to check their stockpile?

 

[bullyrook]

Is there any conditions besides the stockpile that count towards upgrading, or a method of forcing them to check their stockpile?

Full stockpile. Time: level 3 takes twice as long as getting to level 2 iirc. Happiness: 80

Crusher and Filtration plant always seems to take forever to me. For the Filtration plant: Check how much dirty water is the stockpile. At the magic number, you need the same as purified. Crusher is tricky because it needs ”uncommon” junk. It’s like boiling water: if you watch it, it takes longer.

If all these needs are met, you can try refreshing the plot. That sometimes forces the upgrade. Or save, exit, reload. SS reruns all its calculations when you enter the game, again iirc. Sometimes this can force the upgrade to spark.

 

[Cataphractoi]

It's not the stockpile items; like I said, I've confirmed they have the items needed in them. It doesn't seem to be happiness, either, at least not at Starlight, where it's around 83. Loading and refreshing don't seem to have any effect.

I could be wrong, though, if the spreadsheet resource is out of date. I've been judging stockpile thresholds based on that.

 

[bullyrook]

It's not the stockpile items; like I said, I've confirmed they have the items needed in them. It doesn't seem to be happiness, either, at least not at Starlight, where it's around 83. Loading and refreshing don't seem to have any effect.

Time and patience. This is the most difficult part.

Especially since sounds like you got a handle on the mechanics and are doing everything right. Best thing is to trust the mechanics and just play on.

This quote below is strictly speaking about how time and stockpile increases work for advanced plots, but I think it also describes how the time to upgrade is calculated as well:

"for Advanced industrial, kinggath introduced the concept of "ticks", which is 1 in-game hour of play time OR any amount of time waiting/sleeping.

So if you tried to wait the entire process out, it would take 24 sleep periods per stockpile increase. Or you can just run around and play the game and the time will tick away on it's own while you do other things.

Never forget: kinggath at no point has intended SS to replace Fallout gameplay, it is meant to integrate with the normal game and do stuff while you're out questing and murdertating everything you find."-- @mytigio : https://simsettlements.com/site/index.php?threads/advanced-stockpile-speed.2938/​