Question Prompt to Pre-Build Cities after Leaving the Vault

[bullyrook]

Just in the process of enabling/baking mods on a new save game.

I enabled Conqueror Framework and the Conq/Nuka Patch inside Slocum Joe's Office . When I re-entered the game, I get the prompt to prebuild cities.

When I was using the Full Conqueror Version (as far as I can remember), I would only get this prompt if I had Conq enabled at the very start of a game. I don't remember this ever popping up before when I have enabled Conqueror after leaving the vault.

Since I'm planning on building everything myself anyway, I'm going to choose "Actually, i changed my mind about this system" and carry on.

If I had RotC or any City Plans, would it let me start the prebuild process even though I'm already out of the vault? if so, wouldn't that be not optimal?

 

[Irealys]

So I tried to replicate it just because I got curious. I’m on Xbox and am using the size friendly version and I couldn’t replicate it despite what I believe are the conditions you used. Actually now that I think about it, I never bothered to read what baking a savegame meant.

So what conditions are you talking about?

 

[RayBo]

I noticed something like this also, activating it in a testing Profile / save on pc. Hummmmm

I might be - a little confused.

@Irealys Baking a game save = BaGS, https://simsettlements.com/site/index.php?threads/baking-a-game-save-bags.9447/#post-66784

I am working on an update.

 

[Irealys]

Ok, if I understand properly, he had a safe savegame with no mods, he was outside the vault and then enabled conqueror and a few other mods and the setup pop up from conqueror appeared? I tried with a clean savegame where I barely exited the vault all the way to my oldest gamesave and wasn’t able to replicate that (on Xbox one S). It never gave me that opportunity.

I guess the next question would be why? What other mods are active?

Edit: Tried one from just before I exited the vault and I got the pop up.

 

[RayBo]

Ok, if I understand properly, he had a safe savegame with no mods, he was outside the vault and then enabled conqueror and a few other mods and the setup pop up from conqueror appeared? I tried with a clean savegame where I barely exited the vault all the way to my oldest gamesave and wasn’t able to replicate that (on Xbox one S). It never gave me that opportunity.

I guess the next question would be why? What other mods are active?

Edit: Tried one from just before I exited the vault and I got the pop up.

See that is what I thought. "That you could activate while inside the vault not just immediately after the mirror now as part of one of the updates and I missed it in the patch notes?"
As-is I did what @bullyrook did and said "no" as it was a testing save and I was in a hurry.

I wonder if why @bullyrook could do it as he was in an internal cell and if this is a glitch?

When I get time > I will try to do it again. It isn't a CTD or anything but it would be interesting if it did trigger the pre-build sequence?

 

[bullyrook]

Tried one from just before I exited the vault and I got the pop up.

That's good. That's what I'd expect. Did you also enable the Conq/Nuka World Patch along with Conqueror Framework in your out of the vault saves?

 

[RayBo]

Just in the process of enabling/baking mods on a new save game.

I enabled Conqueror Framework and the Conq/Nuka Patch inside Slocum Joe's Office . When I re-entered the game, I get the prompt to prebuild cities.

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When I was using the Full Conqueror Version (as far as I can remember), I would only get this prompt if I had Conq enabled at the very start of a game. I don't remember this ever popping up before when I have enabled Conqueror after leaving the vault.

Since I'm planning on building everything myself anyway, I'm going to choose "Actually, i changed my mind about this system" and carry on.

If I had RotC or any City Plans, would it let me start the prebuild process even though I'm already out of the vault? if so, wouldn't that be not optimal?

I posted on the discord. I'll let you guys know what I find out.

I wasn't using the patch.

 

[bullyrook]

I wonder if why @bullyrook could do it as he was in an internal cell and if this is a glitch?

Same prompt as soon as I enable and load into exterior as well.

What other mods are active?

Mods enabled in saves prior to the save I enabled Conqueror (in Order):

UFO4P
WSFW
SS
IDEKS
Sorted Keys by CrimsomRider
SKK Fast Start Settlement
Simple Survival Game Save
IR

It isn't a CTD or anything but it would be interesting if it did trigger the pre-build sequence?

I hope interesting is all it would be.

I'll play it out a bit more, the darn holotape and sensors weren't where they should be near my starting place either. Maybe my clean save got soiled somehow. Maybe I'm rushing things.

These are the sweet frustrations I've been missing. The last game was mostly too stable and not full of any surprises.

 

[RayBo]

Same prompt as soon as I enable and load into exterior as well.View attachment 6796



Mods enabled in saves prior to the save I enabled Conqueror (in Order):

UFO4P
WSFW
SS
IDEKS
Sorted Keys by CrimsomRider
SKK Fast Start Settlement
Simple Survival Game Save
IR



I hope interesting is all it would be.

I'll play it out a bit more, the darn holotape and sensors weren't where they should be near my starting place either. Maybe my clean save got soiled somehow. Maybe I'm rushing things.

These are the sweet frustrations I've been missing. The last game was mostly too stable and not full of any surprises.

@bullyrook and @Irealys

Yes, the pop-up will happen anywhere if you install conqueror later.

BUT! It is strongly recommended to only try to run the pre-build sequence while in the vault and allow all the scripts to run. Results will not be good "it will likely crash" if ran outside of the normal vault 111 procedure.

Great to know. Great question!

 

[Irealys]

That's good. That's what I'd expect. Did you also enable the Conq/Nuka World Patch along with Conqueror Framework in your out of the vault saves?

Yes

 

[bullyrook]

Yes, the pop-up will happen anywhere if you install conqueror later.

BUT! It is strongly recommended to only try to run the pre-build sequence while in the vault and allow all the scripts to run. Results will not be good "it will likely crash" if ran outside of the normal vault 111 procedure.

seems risky. not everyone has as much self control as i do.

 

[bullyrook]

@RayBo @Irealys

Well, here's an interesting twist: I waited until after I cleared Starlight to enable Conqueror. No set up pop up!

I'm guessing it pops if you enable Conqueror before ever discovering any Settlement and once any settlement is discovered/claimed it won't???

Would maybe explain why @Irealys couldn't get it to pop until rolling back to the vault: I assume you probably had discovered Sanctuary. I avoid it like the plague.

 

[Irealys]

@RayBo @Irealys

Well, here's an interesting twist: I waited until after I cleared Starlight to enable Conqueror. No set up pop up!

I'm guessing it pops if you enable Conqueror before ever discovering any Settlement and once any settlement is discovered/claimed it won't???

Would maybe explain why @Irealys couldn't get it to pop until rolling back to the vault: I assume you probably had discovered Sanctuary. I avoid it like the plague.

Your assumption is correct

 

[cosmic-cube-keeper]

I've triggered the Prebuild system outside the vault in the past. The danger is going near any settlement you've selected to prebuild, right? Can result in things not initializing properly, shit like that. I only attempted it a couple of times, back in the earlier days of SS-C.