Old Post Nuka World raiders turning hostile.

[Phil_T_Casual]

I have been using both Conquerors raiders and the Nuka raiders to take over outposts, I even have a combination of both in one settlement. I also have a Disciple as a companion, using Unlimited Companion Framework.

For a while now, out of the blue, Nuka gangs will turn hostile, all Nuka quests fail, Hunting Season quest begins and I loose control over all outposts/vassals, including the ones taken over with Conqueror raiders. The first time it happened I was passing through an empty Concord. Initially I would load a previous save fast travel and the problem would go away for a while.

At one stage it got so bad if I fast travelled to an outpost or Nuka World they would turn hostile. I thought maybe because I had quests for both gangs going at the same time was causing a conflict, so with the console I went about completing the Nuka quests. I teleported the Disciple leader Nisha to me to finish a side quest, I could complete the quest without issue. When she offered another quest and I refuse it she would turn hostile, everything fails, loose outposts, etc. It feels like maybe the PC has an affinity level with the gangs and possibly that's screwed up?

I eventually got all the Nuka quests complete and thought that was the end of it, but it has started again where out of the blue they turn hostile. I'm well aware that this could be a mod conflict problem, but I did see someone say they had a similar issue only it was with Preston and the Minutemen.

Here are 4 saves that maybe someone who knows more than me could pull info from. 2 are a few mins before they turn hostile, the others right after, they're labelled accordingly.

Spoiler: Plugins/loadorder

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Fallout4.esm
DLCRobot.esm
DLCworkshop01.esm
DLCCoast.esm
DLCworkshop02.esm
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DLCNukaWorld.esm
Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp
ArmorKeywords.esm
Z_Architect.esm
Loads.esm
RadiationProtectorESL.esl
XDI.esm
GCM_DLC_Automatron.esl
Gaussbuff.esp
HUDFramework.esm
WorkshopFramework.esm
SimSettlements.esm
Z_Horizon.esp
Armorsmith Extended.esp
BostonFPSFixAIO.esp
WorkshopRearranged.esp
nuka_world_settlements.esp
BostonFPSFixAutomatron.esp
The Castle.esp
subwayrunnnerdynamiclighting.esp
MoreSpawns_Medium.esp
OutcastsAndRemnants.esp
CombatZoneRestored.esp
Modern Firearms.esp
Eli_Armour_Compendium.esp
Z_SettlementLimits.esp
PaladinBaileyRedRocket.esp
101GlowingSea.esp
Toxic Raider Armour.esp
TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
MiscHairstyle.esp
AgemoNewFace(E)Cait.esp
AgemoNewFace(E)Piper_VanillaOufit.esp
AzarPonytailHairstyles.esp
Z_BlurRemoval.esp
BostonFPSFix-NukaWorld.esp
BTA_ForceOpen.esp
CAMP.esp
ChineseStealthSuit.esp
CommonwealthVehicles.esp
Companion Infinite Ammo and Unbreakable Power Armour.esp
Crafting Mastery.esp
Gm Home Plate.esp
SimSettlements_MegaPack_YearTwo.esp
highwaysfix.esp
SimSettlements_XPAC_Conqueror.esp
SA-SyringerAmmoOverhaul.esp
ProjectValkyrie.esp
CorvalhoWidowShotgun.esp
Crafting Mastery - Patch Sim Settlements.esp
CROSS_Cybernetics.esp
CROSS_Cybernetics_NoRobotFootStepSounds.esp
CROSS_Jetpack.esp
CSS Ballistic Weave.esp
Dank_LegendaryCrafting.esp
Modern Sidearms.esp
Dank_LegendaryCrafting_AWKCR.esp
X13_ScrapOTron.esp
UnlockAllHairstyles.esp
Unbreakable Power Armor Player Only.esp
DN Music.esp
DNMega.esp
Rangergearnew.esp
Driveable Motorcycle Mod.esp
DX_Black_Widow.esp
Eli Armor Compendium AE Patch.esp
Evan_Modular Kitchen.esp
Thematic and Practical.esp
The Wasp.esp
The Eyes Of Beauty.esp
Synth Overhaul.esp
Synth Overhaul - White Patch.esp
Synth Overhaul - No level requirements Patch.esp
Synth Overhaul - Black Patch.esp
SWG.esp
KrissVector.esp
Live Dismemberment - Brutal.esp
Live Dismemberment - Insane-o.esp
Live Dismemberment - Liebermode.esp
Live Dismemberment - Mental.esp
Live Dismemberment - Mind-Blowing.esp
Live Dismemberment - POSTAL.esp
Live Dismemberment - Regular.esp
LMBTOverlays.esp
Loads of Ammo - Leveled Lists.esp
LooksMenu Customization Compendium.esp
LooksMenu.esp
McMillanCS5.esp
More Where That Came From - Classic.esp
More Where That Came From Diamond City.esp
AdvSettleTurretSet.esp
MTs255.esp
SKKHostileCompanionFramework.esp
SKKCombatStalkers.esp
NanoSuit.esp
Nuka-World Collectable Markers.esp
nuka_world_settlements_scrap_addon.esp
OutfitSwitcher.esp
P90.esp
P90NPC.esp
Pip-Boy Flashlight.esp
rfortaleza2.esp
rfortaleza2-wetsuit1.esp
rfortaleza2-pauldron.esp
rfortaleza2-mk6.esp
rfortaleza2-mk5.esp
Quad_Accelerator.esp
rfortaleza2-mk4.esp
rfortaleza2-mk1.esp
rfortaleza2-mk2.esp
rfortaleza2-mk3.esp
AssaultBladebuff.esp
SimSettlements_AddOnPack_IntimateSpaces_SirLach.esp
UitFJ.esp
Multiple Floors Sandboxing.esp
IndustrialCity_Sim_Settlements_Addon.esp
Telsabuff.esp
SimSettlements_CityPlanPack_ContestEntries.esp
MyCityPlans.esp
ProjectBlueprintCOBJs_Sim_Nukaworld.esp
BloodMoonRaiders.esp
WorkshopPlus.esp
GCM.esp
FO4Hotkeys.esp
ProjectBlueprint.esp
WVSimSAddon.esp
SimSettlements_CityPlanContest.esp
Handmadebuff.esp
HangmansHub.esp
ILaserbuff.esp
ILaserbuffM.esp
Laserbuff.esp
Plasmabuff.esp
ProjectBlueprintCOBJs_Sim.espA
ProjectBlueprintCOBJs_Sim_FarHarbor.esp
Railwaybuff.esp
SettlementMenuManager.esp
ProjectBlueprintCOBJs_Sim_Automatron.esp
SimSettlements_MegaPack_YearOne.esp
SimSettlements_AddOnPack_SimTowers_JtBryant.esp
CBBE.esp
UniquePlayer.esp
TransferSettlements.esp
EFF.esp

Any help or pointers about how I can fix this would be much appreciated.

Thanks.

 

[Phil_T_Casual]

I found a work-around for this.

Somehow the player faction is turning hostile to the nuka gangs I have no idea what's causing it but a fix for the problem is to add the player to the nuka factions.

player.addtofaction 0600f438 for the Disciples
player.addtofaction 0600f439 for the Operators
player.addtofaction 0600f43a for the Pack

A list of other factions can be found here

I'm not sure, but there could be the potential for this to cause problems if using faction packs.

 

[Phil_T_Casual]

Seem like I spoke too soon, this does not solve the problem.

 

[cosmic-cube-keeper]

Following this, as Domacles does the NW raider quest line. Does the problem start before or AFTER you start taking Commonwealth settlements for Nuka World?

 

[Phil_T_Casual]

After, but I cracked on and became overboss pretty fast.

 

[Rudy]

Is this still going on or are all the raiders working well together? I've updated the Bug forum with a thread regarding the Minutemen Faction Pack flipping hostilities all over the place. Should I link this thread to the Bug report too?

 

[Phil_T_Casual]

It's still happening alright.
But if I stay well clear of Concord, it doesn't happen.

I'm not confident to call it a bug though, I'm not sure exactly what's causing it as I have a number of mods installed that add new factions (not faction packs) so it's very difficult to pin down. More importantly I can't replicate it and you need to be able to do that to consider it a bug.