Need some WSFW help

Skywise001 · Jun 3, 2023

Hello - Im having some weirdness. Im hoping someone out there knows what I need to do to make it right.

When I left the vault the assistant didnt trigger - no holotape for building.
In Sanctuary the Magazine was there so I picked it up and built the beacon - Jake did not appear.
The option to manage my settlement is missing from the Workbench.

Ive got the load order like the guide suggests for SS2
Here is my load order - its pretty minimal.

#Mod_Priority,#Mod_Status,#Mod_Name,#Mod_Version

"0000","+","DLC: Wasteland Workshop",""

"0001","+","DLC: Vault-Tec Workshop",""

"0002","+","DLC: Nuka-World",""

"0003","+","DLC: Far Harbor",""

"0004","+","DLC: Contraptions Workshop",""

"0005","+","DLC: Automatron",""

"0006","+","Sim Settlements 2 - Tech Settlements","d2023.3.29.0"

"0007","+","Jampads 2 - a Sim Settlements 2 Add On","d2022.12.24.0"

"0008","+","Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch","d2023.6.3.0"

"0009","+","HUDFramework 1.0f","d2023.6.3.0"

"0010","+","Workshop Framework-35004-2-3-5a-1684448406","2.3.5.0a"

"0011","+","Superstructures - A Sim Settlements 2 Addon Pack 2.12","d2023.5.19.0"

"0012","+","Sim Settlements 2 - Tiny Living 3.1","d2022.12.24.0"

"0013","+","Sim Settlements 2 2.3.2b","2.3.2.0b"

"0014","+","SS2 Chapter 2","2.3.2.0"

"0015","+","ohSIM_Sim2_Settlements_Scrappers_Addon","d2022.12.24.0"

"0016","+","Extra Receivers for Laser Revolver - Sim Settlements 2","d2022.8.27.0"

"0017","+","Sim Settlements 2 - Ruined Homes and Gardens 2","d2023.3.29.0"

"0018","+","Wasteland Venturers Sim Settlements 2","d2022.12.24.0"

"0019","+","Sim Settlements 2 City Plan Contest Assistant","d2023.1.2.0"

"0020","+","SS2 Addon - Unlock Vanilla Recruitable Vendors","1.0.1.0"

"0021","+","Sim Settlements 2 Settlement Management Terminal","d2023.3.29.0"

"0022","+","Sim Settlements 2 Addon Pack CaravanSnatex 1.2","d2023.3.29.0"

"0023","+","Sim Settlers 2 Go Shopping","d2023.3.29.0"

"0024","+","SimSettlements_AddOnPack_AwsomeTown_SS2","d2023.3.29.0"

"0025","+","SimSettlements2 AddOnPack Apocalyptic Additions SirLach","d2022.12.24.0"

"0026","+","XV-Versus and Yagisan's Ruined Church Settlement","d2023.6.3.0"

"0027","+","XV-Versus and Yagisan's Crater of Atom Settlement","d2023.6.3.0"

"0028","+","xSE PluginPreloader F4 0.2.5.1","0.2.5.1"

"0029","+","Addres Library","1.10.163.0"

"0030","+","Barstool Games - Main","d2023.6.3.0"

"0031","+","Barstool games Sim Settlments 2 Plots","d2023.6.3.0"

"0032","+","Better Console","d2023.6.3.0"

"0033","+","BS Defence V3.2-63998-3-2-1662995616","d2023.6.3.0"

"0034","+","Corner Wall Snappy","d2023.6.3.0"

"0035","+","Corridor Snappy","d2023.6.3.0"

"0036","+","County Crossing Vanilla Navmesh Update by Vilance","d2023.6.3.0"

"0037","+","Egret Tours Vanilla Navmesh Update by Vilance","d2023.6.3.0"

"0038","+","Elevator Buttons Fix (Contraptions) - Latest Version 2","d2023.6.3.0"

"0039","+","Far Harbor Expansion 2.0","d2023.6.3.0"

"0040","+","From Sanctuary to Concord - Building Plans Module","d2023.6.3.0"

"0041","+","SS2 Full Release Powerful Plots for Superlative Settlers - A Sim Settlements 2 Add-on Pack","d2023.6.3.0"

"0042","+","Garden Plot for teh fixed snap","d2023.6.3.0"

"0043","+","GCBugFix Release 0.1","d2023.6.3.0"

"0044","+","High FPS Physics Fix","d2023.6.3.0"

"0045","+","HUD Plus Plus-27218-v1-1-0","d2023.6.3.0"

"0046","+","ImersiveTeleportation2 4 SS2","2.0.1.0"

"0047","+","Jamaica Plain Pathfinding Fix - ESP","d2023.6.3.0"

"0048","+","Junk Town 2","d2023.6.3.0"

"0049","+","JunkTown - EXTREME2","d2023.6.3.0"

"0050","+","JunkTown - FENCES2","d2023.6.3.0"

"0051","+","Kingsport Lighthouse Vanilla Navmesh Update by Vilance","d2023.6.3.0"

"0052","+","Mechanist's Lair Pathfinding Fix","d2023.6.3.0"

"0053","+","MeshBoundFixes","d2023.6.3.0"

"0054","+","MGEF Condition Bug Fix","d2023.6.3.0"

"0055","+","Mod Configuration Menu 1.39","d2023.6.3.0"

"0056","+","pythoncore","d2021.1.27.0"

"0057","+","Murkwater Construction Vanilla Navmesh Update by Vilance","d2023.6.3.0"

"0058","+","NSO - Base Pack 5.0","d2023.6.3.0"

"0059","+","Place (Fallout4 1.10.163 - latest release)","d2023.6.3.0"

"0060","+","Sim Settlements 2 - Pra's Random Addon 2","18.1.0.0"

"0061","+","PraScripts","d2023.6.3.0"

"0062","+","Rags and Riches 2.0","d2023.6.3.0"

"0063","+","Random Settlers - Level Up","d2023.6.3.0"

"0064","+","Random Settlers","d2023.6.3.0"

"0065","+","Red Rocket Updated Navmesh by Vilance","d2023.6.3.0"

"0066","+","Rusty Face Fix - Latest Version","d2023.6.3.0"

"0067","+","Sanctuary Vanilla Navmesh Update by Vilance","d2023.6.3.0"

"0068","+","Scaffolding Snapping 1.1","d2023.6.3.0"

"0069","+","[Settlement] Mystic Pines","2.0.0.0"

"0070","+","SettlementMenuManagerMainFile","d2023.6.3.0"

"0071","+","Sim Settlements 2 Addon Pack - The Alley Cabaret","d2023.6.3.0"

"0072","+","Sim Settler 2 SimHomestead","d2023.6.3.0"

"0073","+","Snappy Half Walls","d2023.6.3.0"

"0074","+","Snappy Railings","d2023.6.3.0"

"0075","+","Snappy Stairs","d2023.6.3.0"

"0076","+","So I Made Plans","d2023.6.3.0"

"0077","+","SS2 Blood Moon Raiders - A Sim Settlements 2 Addon Pack","1.0.0.0"

"0078","+","SS2 Better Outfits","d2023.6.3.0"

"0079","+","SS2 DLC Settlers Patch","d2023.6.3.0"

"0080","+","SS2 Extended Outfit Injection ESL","d2023.6.3.0"

"0081","+","SS2 Happy Trails","d2023.6.3.0"

"0082","+","SS2 Industrial Revolution of the Wasteland","d2022.12.6.0"

"0083","+","SS2 Settlers at Play","d2023.6.3.0"

"0084","+","Buffout4 NG","d2023.6.3.0"

"0085","+","Coastal Cottage Vanilla Navmesh Update by Vilance","d2023.6.3.0"

"0086","+","Crafting Highlight Fix 1.8.8","d2023.6.3.0"

"0087","+","creation_organizer","d2023.6.3.0"

"0088","+","DEF_UI","1.5.1.0"

"0089","+","DEF_UI Compatibility Patch","d2023.6.3.0"

"0090","+","Pra's Fairline Hills Settlement","2.2.1.0"

"0091","+","IDEK's Logistics Station 2","2.1.3.0"

"0092","+","MCM Booster","d2023.6.3.0"

"0093","+","MCM Settings Manager","1.2.0.0"

"0094","+","SS2 Workshop HUD Override","d2023.6.3.0"

"0095","+","SS2_AddOnPack_MsB'sPlainPlans","d2023.6.3.0"

"0096","+","SS2 Addon - Bare Essentials","1.0.0.0"

"0097","+","Sim Settlements 2 Automatron Mod","1.0.0.0"

"0098","+","Starlight DriveIn Vanilla Navmesh Update by Vilance - ESL","d2023.6.3.0"

"0099","+","Tarsis31 and Yagisan's Lakeside Cabin Settlement","d2023.6.3.0"

"0100","+","The Slog Vanilla Navmesh Update by Vilance (ESL))","d2023.6.3.0"

"0101","+","ThrowMoneyAtSS2","d2023.6.3.0"

"0102","+","Top Wall Snappy","d2023.6.3.0"

"0103","+","Useful Posts for Behemoth's","d2023.6.3.0"

"0104","+","Vanilla Navmesh Update by Vilance","d2023.6.3.0"

"0105","+","WeirdMattressFix","d2023.6.3.0"

"0106","+","Workshop Plus","d2023.6.3.0"

"0107","+","We Can Live In - North Point Park","d2023.6.3.0"

"0108","+","Wasteland Workshop Snappable Posters","d2023.6.3.0"

"0109","+","Wasteland Reconstruction Kit","d2023.6.3.0"

"0110","+","Visible Idle Markers","d2023.6.3.0"

"0111","+","Vault-Tec Tools-48700-1-0-5a-1650723760","d2023.6.3.0"

"0112","+","SS2 Support Structures of the Wasteland","d2023.3.29.0"

"0113","+","Choochoo1's Nuka World Sim Settlements 2 patch","d2023.6.3.0"

"0114","+","PRP SS2 Plugin Fixes Ch1","d2022.10.1.0"

"0115","+","PRP SS2 Plugin Fixes Ch2","d2022.10.1.0"

"0116","+","PRP SS2 Previsibines Upgrade","d2022.10.1.0"

"0117","+","SS2 Favelabulous ESL Flagged Version 1.1","d2022.11.3.0"

"0118","+","SS2 Junk Storage Capacity","d2023.3.29.0"

"0119","+","Rise of the Commonwealth for SS2","d2022.11.3.0"

"0120","+","Sim Settlements 2 - Addon Pack - DZK's Concrete Defensible Positions-20230428T050646Z-001","d2023.4.27.0"

"0121","+","SimSettlements_AddOnPack_AwsomeTown_SS2Version","d2022.10.18.0"

"0122","+","SS2 Nobody's Leaders 2","2.0.0.0"

"0123","+","SS2 Ad Victoriam-Settler","d2022.12.6.0"

"0124","+","Hybrid Evolution Armory (Starcraft Inspired)","1.1.0.0c"

"0126","+","Canary v 1.0.0","d2023.6.3.0"

"0127","+","Cheat Terminal v1.72","1.72.0.0"

"0128","+","SS2 CPC Helper","d2023.5.9.0"

"0129","+","Workshop Framework Script Override","2.3.5.0a"

"0130","+","Immersive Teleportation 2","2.3.0.0"

If you can see what I didnt instal, or did wrong, please let me know and have a good weekend

I did figure out I can get to the menu with the holotape. But it says everything is on when it isnt. Ive tried turning it off and back on in the hopes of a change - nothing.

Skywise001 · Jun 4, 2023

When I load games where I want to export their all unable to. Fixed the entry so SS2 comes before SS2CH2.

LeapinL · Jun 4, 2023

Skywise001 said:
When I load games where I want to export their all unable to. Fixed the entry so SS2 comes before SS2CH2.

Don't know if this will help, but on Vortex it has the first mods after DLC are the UFO4 Patch, HUD& WSFW.
I noticed you have a couple of SS2 add on mods, Tech and Jampads before SS2. Vortex has placed all my SS2 addons after the 2 main mods.

Skywise001 · Jun 4, 2023

It cant hurt to fiddle with it. I sorted it with LOOT then moved things for fit the SS2 load order.

veelynnlove · Jun 4, 2023

My dude, there’s no easy way to say this. Your load order is a M E S S. Are you using any sort of Mod Manager or are you manually sorting? You mentioned LOOT and an SS2 guide? What SS2 guide?

LOOT generally does a good job at sorting most things, but it’s important to understand the category of mod your downloading and keeping like items together.

Here’s one load order guide I’ve found that you can follow if you are manually sorting.

Simple Load Order Guide

For Steam Deck users who may only wish to use the Bethesda Mod Portal or who are not very experienced with modding Bethesda games, but who are looking for a generalized load order that should, hopeful

www.nexusmods.com

Note: they put SS2 far down on the list, which goes against the standard advice and is NOT something I recommend. They claim in the comments that they can get away with it since it is an esm. I say, load it up with “Frameworks”

Here is an example of a very finely crafted, curated, masterfully sorted load order by our very own @Yagisan. This is the City Planner’s Contest Modlist, and he’s sorted it perfectly! Follow this as your guide, and you should be golden!

Skywise001 · Jun 4, 2023

I spent the last night ordering it. Couldnt sleep anyway. And tinkering with my town.
I based my list off of his. Sadly I cant get it to entirely work right so Im trying to do it myself.
The list I used is the setup guide on the SS2 wiki. Id run Loot just before copying and pasting the list.

Oh just an FYI Im labeling mods that I use with SS2 as SS2 mods. Just so I can keep em straight.

#Mod_Priority,#Mod_Name
"0000","DLC: Wasteland Workshop"
"0001","DLC: Vault-Tec Workshop"
"0002","DLC: Nuka-World"
"0003","DLC: Far Harbor"
"0004","DLC: Contraptions Workshop"
"0005","DLC: Automatron"
"0006","Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch"
"0007","HUDFramework 1.0f"
"0008","Workshop Framework-35004-2-3-5a-1684448406"
"0009","Sim Settlements 2 2.3.2b"
"0010","SS2 Chapter 2"
"0011","Addres Library"
"0012","Workshop Plus"
"0013","HUD Plus Plus-27218-v1-1-0"
"0014","SS2 Workshop HUD Override"
"0015","SS2 CPC Helper"
"0016","xSE PluginPreloader F4 0.2.5.1"
"0017","Sim Settlements 2 - Tech Settlements"
"0018","Sim Settlements 2 Jampads 2 - a Sim Settlements 2 Add On"
"0019","SS2 Superstructures - A SS2 Addon Pack 2.12"
"0020","Sim Settlements 2 - Tiny Living 3.1"
"0021","SS2 ohSIM_Sim2_Settlements_Scrappers_Addon"
"0022","SS2 Extra Receivers for Laser Revolver - Sim Settlements 2"
"0023","Sim Settlements 2 - Ruined Homes and Gardens 2"
"0024","SS2 Wasteland Venturers Sim Settlements 2"
"0025","SS2 Immersive Teleportation 2"
"0026","SS2 Ad Victoriam-Settler"
"0027","SS2 Addon - Unlock Vanilla Recruitable Vendors"
"0028","SimSettlements AddOnPack_AwsomeTown_SS2Version"
"0029","SS2 Favelabulous ESL Flagged Version 1.1"
"0030","SS2 Junk Storage Capacity"
"0031","SS2 Rise of the Commonwealth for SS2"
"0032","Sim Settlements 2 - Addon Pack - DZK's Concrete Defensible Positions-20230428T050646Z-001"
"0033","PRP SS2 Plugin Fixes Ch1"
"0034","PRP SS2 Plugin Fixes Ch2"
"0035","SS2 Nobody's Leaders 2"
"0036","SS2 Junk Town 2"
"0037","SS2 JunkTown - EXTREME2"
"0038","SS2 JunkTown - FENCES2"
"0039","Sim Settlements 2 Addon Pack CaravanSnatex 1.2"
"0040","Sim Settlers 2 Go Shopping"
"0041","SS2 Settlers Go Shopping - Idle Conversations at Settlement Stores"
"0042","SS2 PRP Previsibines Upgrade"
"0043","Sim Settlements 2_AddOnPack_AwsomeTown_SS2"
"0044","SimSettlements2 AddOnPack Apocalyptic Additions SirLach"
"0045","SS2 Far Harbor Expansion 2.0"
"0046","SS2 XV-Versus and Yagisan's Ruined Church Settlement"
"0047","SS2 XV-Versus and Yagisan's Crater of Atom Settlement"
"0048","SS2 Barstool Games - Main"
"0049","SS2 Barstool games Sim Settlments 2 Plots"
"0050","SS2 Wasteland Warlord Settlement Objects Unlocked 1.3"
"0051","SS2 Full Release Powerful Plots for Superlative Settlers - A Sim Settlements 2 Add-on Pack"
"0052","SS2 From Sanctuary to Concord - Building Plans Module"
"0053","SS2 Useful Posts for Behemoth's"
"0054","SS2 Wasteland Reconstruction Kit"
"0055","Nav Egret Tours Vanilla Navmesh Update by Vilance"
"0056","SS2 We Can Live In - North Point Park"
"0057","SS2 Wasteland Workshop Snappable Posters"
"0058","SS2 Visible Idle Markers"
"0059","SS2 Support Structures of the Wasteland"
"0060","SS2 Choochoo1's Nuka World Sim Settlements 2 patch"
"0061","Nav Vanilla Navmesh Update by Vilance"
"0062","Nav The Slog Vanilla Navmesh Update by Vilance (ESL))"
"0063","Nav Coastal Cottage Vanilla Navmesh Update by Vilance"
"0064","Nav Starlight DriveIn Vanilla Navmesh Update by Vilance - ESL"
"0065","Nav Jamaica Plain Pathfinding Fix - ESP"
"0066","Nav Mechanist's Lair Pathfinding Fix"
"0067","Nav Kingsport Lighthouse Vanilla Navmesh Update by Vilance"
"0068","Nav Murkwater Construction Vanilla Navmesh Update by Vilance"
"0069","Nav Red Rocket Updated Navmesh by Vilance"
"0070","Nav MeshBoundFixes"
"0071","Nav Sanctuary Vanilla Navmesh Update by Vilance"
"0072","Nav County Crossing Vanilla Navmesh Update by Vilance"
"0073","Better Console"
"0074","Corner Wall Snappy"
"0075","Corridor Snappy"
"0076","GCBugFix Release 0.1"
"0077","High FPS Physics Fix"
"0078","MGEF Condition Bug Fix"
"0079","MCM Mod Configuration Menu 1.39"
"0080","pythoncore"
"0081","NSO - Base Pack 5.0"
"0082","SS2 Place (Fallout4 1.10.163 - latest release)"
"0083","Sim Settlements 2 - Pra's Random Addon 2"
"0084","PraScripts"
"0085","SS2 Rags and Riches 2.0"
"0086","SS2 So I Made Plans"
"0087","SS2 Random Settlers"
"0088","SS2 Random Settlers - Level Up"
"0089","SS2 Blood Moon Raiders - A Sim Settlements 2 Addon Pack"
"0090","Sim Settler 2 SimHomestead"
"0091","Rusty Face Fix - Latest Version"
"0092","SS2 IDEK's Logistics Station 2"
"0093","SS2 [Settlement] Mystic Pines"
"0094","SettlementMenuManagerMainFile"
"0095","Sim Settlements 2 Addon Pack - The Alley Cabaret"
"0096","Snappy Half Walls"
"0097","Snappy Railings"
"0098","Snappy Stairs"
"0099","SS2 Better Outfits"
"0100","SS2 DLC Settlers Patch"
"0101","SS2 Extended Outfit Injection ESL"
"0102","Sim Settlements 2 City Plan Contest Assistant"
"0103","SS2 Pra's Fairline Hills Settlement"
"0104","SS2 Addon - Bare Essentials"
"0105","Sim Settlements 2 Automatron Mod"
"0106","Sim Settlements 2 Settlement Management Terminal"
"0107","SS2_AddOnPack_MsB'sPlainPlans"
"0108","SS2 Tarsis31 and Yagisan's Lakeside Cabin Settlement"
"0109","SS2 ThrowMoneyAtSS2"
"0110","SS2 Happy Trails"
"0111","SS2 Industrial Revolution of the Wasteland"
"0112","SS2 Settlers at Play"
"0113","Buffout4 NG"
"0114","Crafting Highlight Fix 1.8.8"
"0115","creation_organizer"
"0116","DEF_UI"
"0117","Scaffolding Snapping 1.1"
"0118","DEF_UI Compatibility Patch"
"0119","MCM Booster"
"0120","MCM Settings Manager"
"0121","Elevator Buttons Fix (Contraptions) - Latest Version 2"
"0122","Top Wall Snappy"
"0123","BS Defence V3.2-63998-3-2-1662995616"
"0124","WeirdMattressFix"
"0125","SS2 Vault-Tec Tools-48700-1-0-5a-1650723760"
"0126","Hybrid Evolution Armory (Starcraft Inspired)"
"0127","Cheat Terminal v1.72"
"0128","Canary v 1.0.0"
"0129","Workshop Framework Script Override"

Skywise001 · Jun 4, 2023

Oh neat I managed to use transfer settlements to make the file I need. Installing it seems to of fixed everything.

veelynnlove · Jun 4, 2023

PRP, Previs, and any other Precombines should be near the bottom of your load order. DEF_UI is a framework mod, it needs to go near the top. Custom Settlements need to go at the very bottom of your load order.

Skywise001 · Jun 4, 2023

veelynnlove said:
PRP, Previs, and any other Precombines should be near the bottom of your load order. DEF_UI is a framework mod, it needs to go near the top. Custom Settlements need to go at the very bottom of your load order.

I'll change them. Thank you for your advice!

veelynnlove · Jun 4, 2023

Skywise001 said:
I'll change them. Thank you for your advice!

I hope it helps. If you don’t see any improvement with load order changes, I’d roll back the save with the new load order and see if that helps at all…

Skywise001 · Jun 4, 2023

Ok hopefully that is working like it should. if I missed anything let me know

#Mod_Priority,#Mod_Name
"0000","DLC: Wasteland Workshop"
"0001","DLC: Vault-Tec Workshop"
"0002","DLC: Nuka-World"
"0003","DLC: Far Harbor"
"0004","DLC: Contraptions Workshop"
"0005","DLC: Automatron"
"0006","Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch"
"0007","HUDFramework 1.0f"
"0008","Workshop Framework-35004-2-3-5a-1684448406"
"0009","Sim Settlements 2 2.3.2b"
"0010","SS2 Chapter 2"
"0011","City Plan Contest Assistant"
"0012","Addres Library"
"0013","Workshop Plus"
"0014","HUD Plus Plus-27218-v1-1-0"
"0015","SS2 Workshop HUD Override"
"0016","SS2 CPC Helper"
"0017","xSE PluginPreloader F4 0.2.5.1"
"0018","DEF_UI"
"0019","DEF_UI Compatibility Patch"
"0020","Sim Settlements 2 - Tech Settlements"
"0021","Sim Settlements 2 Jampads 2 - a Sim Settlements 2 Add On"
"0022","SS2 Superstructures - A SS2 Addon Pack 2.12"
"0023","Sim Settlements 2 - Tiny Living 3.1"
"0024","SS2 ohSIM_Sim2_Settlements_Scrappers_Addon"
"0025","SS2 Extra Receivers for Laser Revolver - Sim Settlements 2"
"0026","Sim Settlements 2 - Ruined Homes and Gardens 2"
"0027","SS2 Wasteland Venturers Sim Settlements 2"
"0028","SS2 Immersive Teleportation 2"
"0029","SS2 Ad Victoriam-Settler"
"0030","SS2 Addon - Unlock Vanilla Recruitable Vendors"
"0031","SimSettlements AddOnPack_AwsomeTown_SS2Version"
"0032","SS2 Favelabulous ESL Flagged Version 1.1"
"0033","SS2 Junk Storage Capacity"
"0034","SS2 Rise of the Commonwealth for SS2"
"0035","Sim Settlements 2 - Addon Pack - DZK's Concrete Defensible Positions-20230428T050646Z-001"
"0036","SS2 Nobody's Leaders 2"
"0037","SS2 Junk Town 2"
"0038","SS2 JunkTown - EXTREME2"
"0039","SS2 JunkTown - FENCES2"
"0040","Sim Settlements 2 Addon Pack CaravanSnatex 1.2"
"0041","Sim Settlers 2 Go Shopping"
"0042","SS2 Settlers Go Shopping - Idle Conversations at Settlement Stores"
"0043","Sim Settlements 2_AddOnPack_AwsomeTown_SS2"
"0044","SimSettlements2 AddOnPack Apocalyptic Additions SirLach"
"0045","SS2 Far Harbor Expansion 2.0"
"0046","SS2 Barstool Games - Main"
"0047","SS2 Barstool games Sim Settlments 2 Plots"
"0048","SS2 Wasteland Warlord Settlement Objects Unlocked 1.3"
"0049","SS2 Full Release Powerful Plots for Superlative Settlers - A Sim Settlements 2 Add-on Pack"
"0050","SS2 From Sanctuary to Concord - Building Plans Module"
"0051","SS2 Useful Posts for Behemoth's"
"0052","SS2 Wasteland Reconstruction Kit"
"0053","SS2 Wasteland Workshop Snappable Posters"
"0054","SS2 Visible Idle Markers"
"0055","SS2 Support Structures of the Wasteland"
"0056","SS2 Choochoo1's Nuka World Sim Settlements 2 patch"
"0057","Nav Vanilla Navmesh Update by Vilance"
"0058","Nav The Slog Vanilla Navmesh Update by Vilance (ESL))"
"0059","Nav Coastal Cottage Vanilla Navmesh Update by Vilance"
"0060","Nav Egret Tours Vanilla Navmesh Update by Vilance"
"0061","Nav Starlight DriveIn Vanilla Navmesh Update by Vilance - ESL"
"0062","Nav Sanctuary Vanilla Navmesh Update by Vilance"
"0063","Nav Jamaica Plain Pathfinding Fix - ESP"
"0064","Nav Mechanist's Lair Pathfinding Fix"
"0065","Nav Kingsport Lighthouse Vanilla Navmesh Update by Vilance"
"0066","Nav Murkwater Construction Vanilla Navmesh Update by Vilance"
"0067","Nav Red Rocket Updated Navmesh by Vilance"
"0068","Nav MeshBoundFixes"
"0069","Nav County Crossing Vanilla Navmesh Update by Vilance"
"0070","Better Console"
"0071","Corner Wall Snappy"
"0072","Corridor Snappy"
"0073","GCBugFix Release 0.1"
"0074","High FPS Physics Fix"
"0075","MGEF Condition Bug Fix"
"0076","MCM Mod Configuration Menu 1.39"
"0077","pythoncore"
"0078","NSO - Base Pack 5.0"
"0079","SS2 Place (Fallout4 1.10.163 - latest release)"
"0080","Sim Settlements 2 - Pra's Random Addon 2"
"0081","SS2 Rags and Riches 2.0"
"0082","SS2 So I Made Plans"
"0083","SS2 Random Settlers"
"0084","SS2 Random Settlers - Level Up"
"0085","SS2 Blood Moon Raiders - A Sim Settlements 2 Addon Pack"
"0086","Sim Settler 2 SimHomestead"
"0087","Rusty Face Fix - Latest Version"
"0088","SS2 IDEK's Logistics Station 2"
"0089","SettlementMenuManagerMainFile"
"0090","Sim Settlements 2 Addon Pack - The Alley Cabaret"
"0091","Snappy Half Walls"
"0092","Snappy Railings"
"0093","Snappy Stairs"
"0094","SS2 Better Outfits"
"0095","SS2 DLC Settlers Patch"
"0096","SS2 Extended Outfit Injection ESL"
"0097","SS2 Addon - Bare Essentials"
"0098","Sim Settlements 2 Automatron Mod"
"0099","Sim Settlements 2 Settlement Management Terminal"
"0100","SS2_AddOnPack_MsB'sPlainPlans"
"0101","SS2 ThrowMoneyAtSS2"
"0102","SS2 Happy Trails"
"0103","SS2 Industrial Revolution of the Wasteland"
"0104","SS2 Settlers at Play"
"0105","Buffout4 NG"
"0106","Crafting Highlight Fix 1.8.8"
"0108","Scaffolding Snapping 1.1"
"0109","MCM Booster"
"0110","MCM Settings Manager"
"0111","Elevator Buttons Fix (Contraptions) - Latest Version 2"
"0112","Top Wall Snappy"
"0113","BS Defence V3.2-63998-3-2-1662995616"
"0114","WeirdMattressFix"
"0115","SS2 Vault-Tec Tools-48700-1-0-5a-1650723760"
"0116","Hybrid Evolution Armory (Starcraft Inspired)"
"0117","Cheat Terminal v1.72"
"0118","SS2 XV-Versus and Yagisan's Ruined Church Settlement"
"0119","SS2 XV-Versus and Yagisan's Crater of Atom Settlement"
"0120","SS2 We Can Live In - North Point Park"
"0121","SS2 [Settlement] Mystic Pines"
"0122","SS2 Pra's Fairline Hills Settlement"
"0123","SS2 Tarsis31 and Yagisan's Lakeside Cabin Settlement"
"0124","Transfer Settlements - Shareable Settlement Blueprints"
"0125","PraScripts"
"0126","SS2 PRP Previsibines Upgrade"
"0127","PRP SS2 Plugin Fixes Ch1"
"0128","PRP SS2 Plugin Fixes Ch2"
"0129","Canary v 1.0.0"
"0130","Workshop Framework Script Override"

veelynnlove · Jun 4, 2023

Skywise001 said:
Ok hopefully that is working like it should. if I missed anything let me know

#Mod_Priority,#Mod_Name
"0000","DLC: Wasteland Workshop"
"0001","DLC: Vault-Tec Workshop"
"0002","DLC: Nuka-World"
"0003","DLC: Far Harbor"
"0004","DLC: Contraptions Workshop"
"0005","DLC: Automatron"
"0006","Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch"
"0007","HUDFramework 1.0f"
"0008","Workshop Framework-35004-2-3-5a-1684448406"
"0009","Sim Settlements 2 2.3.2b"
"0010","SS2 Chapter 2"
"0011","City Plan Contest Assistant"
"0012","Addres Library"
"0013","Workshop Plus"
"0014","HUD Plus Plus-27218-v1-1-0"
"0015","SS2 Workshop HUD Override"
"0016","SS2 CPC Helper"
"0017","xSE PluginPreloader F4 0.2.5.1"
"0018","DEF_UI"
"0019","DEF_UI Compatibility Patch"
"0020","Sim Settlements 2 - Tech Settlements"
"0021","Sim Settlements 2 Jampads 2 - a Sim Settlements 2 Add On"
"0022","SS2 Superstructures - A SS2 Addon Pack 2.12"
"0023","Sim Settlements 2 - Tiny Living 3.1"
"0024","SS2 ohSIM_Sim2_Settlements_Scrappers_Addon"
"0025","SS2 Extra Receivers for Laser Revolver - Sim Settlements 2"
"0026","Sim Settlements 2 - Ruined Homes and Gardens 2"
"0027","SS2 Wasteland Venturers Sim Settlements 2"
"0028","SS2 Immersive Teleportation 2"
"0029","SS2 Ad Victoriam-Settler"
"0030","SS2 Addon - Unlock Vanilla Recruitable Vendors"
"0031","SimSettlements AddOnPack_AwsomeTown_SS2Version"
"0032","SS2 Favelabulous ESL Flagged Version 1.1"
"0033","SS2 Junk Storage Capacity"
"0034","SS2 Rise of the Commonwealth for SS2"
"0035","Sim Settlements 2 - Addon Pack - DZK's Concrete Defensible Positions-20230428T050646Z-001"
"0036","SS2 Nobody's Leaders 2"
"0037","SS2 Junk Town 2"
"0038","SS2 JunkTown - EXTREME2"
"0039","SS2 JunkTown - FENCES2"
"0040","Sim Settlements 2 Addon Pack CaravanSnatex 1.2"
"0041","Sim Settlers 2 Go Shopping"
"0042","SS2 Settlers Go Shopping - Idle Conversations at Settlement Stores"
"0043","Sim Settlements 2_AddOnPack_AwsomeTown_SS2"
"0044","SimSettlements2 AddOnPack Apocalyptic Additions SirLach"
"0045","SS2 Far Harbor Expansion 2.0"
"0046","SS2 Barstool Games - Main"
"0047","SS2 Barstool games Sim Settlments 2 Plots"
"0048","SS2 Wasteland Warlord Settlement Objects Unlocked 1.3"
"0049","SS2 Full Release Powerful Plots for Superlative Settlers - A Sim Settlements 2 Add-on Pack"
"0050","SS2 From Sanctuary to Concord - Building Plans Module"
"0051","SS2 Useful Posts for Behemoth's"
"0052","SS2 Wasteland Reconstruction Kit"
"0053","SS2 Wasteland Workshop Snappable Posters"
"0054","SS2 Visible Idle Markers"
"0055","SS2 Support Structures of the Wasteland"
"0056","SS2 Choochoo1's Nuka World Sim Settlements 2 patch"
"0057","Nav Vanilla Navmesh Update by Vilance"
"0058","Nav The Slog Vanilla Navmesh Update by Vilance (ESL))"
"0059","Nav Coastal Cottage Vanilla Navmesh Update by Vilance"
"0060","Nav Egret Tours Vanilla Navmesh Update by Vilance"
"0061","Nav Starlight DriveIn Vanilla Navmesh Update by Vilance - ESL"
"0062","Nav Sanctuary Vanilla Navmesh Update by Vilance"
"0063","Nav Jamaica Plain Pathfinding Fix - ESP"
"0064","Nav Mechanist's Lair Pathfinding Fix"
"0065","Nav Kingsport Lighthouse Vanilla Navmesh Update by Vilance"
"0066","Nav Murkwater Construction Vanilla Navmesh Update by Vilance"
"0067","Nav Red Rocket Updated Navmesh by Vilance"
"0068","Nav MeshBoundFixes"
"0069","Nav County Crossing Vanilla Navmesh Update by Vilance"
"0070","Better Console"
"0071","Corner Wall Snappy"
"0072","Corridor Snappy"
"0073","GCBugFix Release 0.1"
"0074","High FPS Physics Fix"
"0075","MGEF Condition Bug Fix"
"0076","MCM Mod Configuration Menu 1.39"
"0077","pythoncore"
"0078","NSO - Base Pack 5.0"
"0079","SS2 Place (Fallout4 1.10.163 - latest release)"
"0080","Sim Settlements 2 - Pra's Random Addon 2"
"0081","SS2 Rags and Riches 2.0"
"0082","SS2 So I Made Plans"
"0083","SS2 Random Settlers"
"0084","SS2 Random Settlers - Level Up"
"0085","SS2 Blood Moon Raiders - A Sim Settlements 2 Addon Pack"
"0086","Sim Settler 2 SimHomestead"
"0087","Rusty Face Fix - Latest Version"
"0088","SS2 IDEK's Logistics Station 2"
"0089","SettlementMenuManagerMainFile"
"0090","Sim Settlements 2 Addon Pack - The Alley Cabaret"
"0091","Snappy Half Walls"
"0092","Snappy Railings"
"0093","Snappy Stairs"
"0094","SS2 Better Outfits"
"0095","SS2 DLC Settlers Patch"
"0096","SS2 Extended Outfit Injection ESL"
"0097","SS2 Addon - Bare Essentials"
"0098","Sim Settlements 2 Automatron Mod"
"0099","Sim Settlements 2 Settlement Management Terminal"
"0100","SS2_AddOnPack_MsB'sPlainPlans"
"0101","SS2 ThrowMoneyAtSS2"
"0102","SS2 Happy Trails"
"0103","SS2 Industrial Revolution of the Wasteland"
"0104","SS2 Settlers at Play"
"0105","Buffout4 NG"
"0106","Crafting Highlight Fix 1.8.8"
"0108","Scaffolding Snapping 1.1"
"0109","MCM Booster"
"0110","MCM Settings Manager"
"0111","Elevator Buttons Fix (Contraptions) - Latest Version 2"
"0112","Top Wall Snappy"
"0113","BS Defence V3.2-63998-3-2-1662995616"
"0114","WeirdMattressFix"
"0115","SS2 Vault-Tec Tools-48700-1-0-5a-1650723760"
"0116","Hybrid Evolution Armory (Starcraft Inspired)"
"0117","Cheat Terminal v1.72"
"0118","SS2 XV-Versus and Yagisan's Ruined Church Settlement"
"0119","SS2 XV-Versus and Yagisan's Crater of Atom Settlement"
"0120","SS2 We Can Live In - North Point Park"
"0121","SS2 [Settlement] Mystic Pines"
"0122","SS2 Pra's Fairline Hills Settlement"
"0123","SS2 Tarsis31 and Yagisan's Lakeside Cabin Settlement"
"0124","Transfer Settlements - Shareable Settlement Blueprints"
"0125","PraScripts"
"0126","SS2 PRP Previsibines Upgrade"
"0127","PRP SS2 Plugin Fixes Ch1"
"0128","PRP SS2 Plugin Fixes Ch2"
"0129","Canary v 1.0.0"
"0130","Workshop Framework Script Override"

I’d move the custom settlements below the SS2 PRP, right before Workshop Framework Script Override. You want custom settlements to overwrite basically everything to make sure they work properly.

WolfQueen · Jun 5, 2023

@Skywise001 Geeeeeez Your load order is huge!!! I thought mine was bad in the beginning oh boy! LOL Yes, Loot shall help with the problem! btw are Random Settlers any good?

Skywise001 · Jun 5, 2023

WolfQueen said:
@Skywise001 Geeeeeez Your load order is huge!!! I thought mine was bad in the beginning oh boy! LOL Yes, Loot shall help with the problem! btw are Random Settlers any good?

I like adding in mods and seeing if I can make them play nice together. I usually end up over the 255 normal mod limit and need to add esl to make it work. I forget the exact number but the highest mod number was in the 600s. I really love clothing and armor variants oh and weapons too!

I mostly tried it because Yagisan's suggested it. So far it hasnt caused any trouble and it does make them look less...the same. It also has a sub mod that makes settlers stronger. It also seems to work well.

WolfQueen · Jun 5, 2023

Wow that's a load of mods!! I am beyond picky when it comes to armors and weapons

Skywise001 · Jun 5, 2023

What Ive started doing is activating every clothing mod. Then I log in and cheat to get them and have a fashion show building some outfits and retiring the meh clothing / one replaced by other mods.

Im really fond of mods that give several things. Like I use a Starcraft mod that adds power armor, a machine gun, and an OP sniper rifle. I run it in my Build account since it wont affect the build and I feel a lot safer.

Oh another fun mod I like is Sisters of Battle - Warhammer40k. Gives you a suit of cool armor, sword, guns, and companion.

GuardianMF · Jun 5, 2023

So, what mod manager is being used here? Loot can be used as a way to get a basic load order that you will need to adjust (and never sort with LOOT afterwards), but ideally you should define categories, starting with texture and fixes all the way down to late loaders, and then have the plugins following that same order (which is why ESL files should be avoided as much as possible).

Skywise001 · Jun 5, 2023

Im using Mod organizer 2. I used its loot to get the inital sort that was so bad :P

I hadnt considered ESL as a problem but their all loaded last right? I'll blow the dust of my Bash.

GuardianMF · Jun 5, 2023

Skywise001 said:
Im using Mod organizer 2. I used its loot to get the inital sort that was so bad :P

I hadnt considered ESL as a problem but their all loaded last right? I'll blow the dust of my Bash.

ESL shares the same priority space with ESM files. ESP plug-ins can only be loaded after those, which makes it impossible to manage a conflict between an ESL plug-in and an ESP plug-in with load order. This is why I usually ship my mods with a ESL-flagged ESP plug-in, which is sorted among regular ESP files, but counts against the ESL limit (you can have 4096 of those i think)

Skywise001 · Jun 5, 2023

Some kind of insane number yea :D
Thank you for the insight. Load order is still a strange and mysterious thing but now I have some tips to help me make sense of it.

Need some WSFW help

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