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HUD issue

1ae0bfb8

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honestly, you're going to have to offer a tad more than you have done so far. unless your intent is to secretly play 20 questions!
:)
Can you put your load order up in some spoiler tags? perhaps a screen shot?
 

Ebix

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I'm having the same issue, its actually only just recently i've even noticed (through a video of KG showing it off) that the HUD was even a thing, i've had all sorts of hud widgets (including normal Sim Settlements) appearing just fine since people've first started using HudFramework, but have never seen this Conqueror hud.
Already tried disabling and moving around (MO2) files that should conflict but still nothin' - i figured it wasn't a big deal since its never been a thing for me but i guess it can be really helpful? *shrug*
Fallout4.esm
DLCRobot.esm
DLCworkshop01.esm
DLCCoast.esm
DLCworkshop02.esm
DLCworkshop03.esm
DLCNukaWorld.esm
ccfsvfo4001-modularmilitarybackpack.esl
ccfsvfo4002-midcenturymodern.esl
cckgjfo4001-bastion.esl
ccgcafo4025-pagunmm.esl
AAF.esm
TrueStormsFO4.esm
SC-SanctuaryCrash-redux.esl
space2jump_Costal_Cottage_ss_Cityplan.esl
space2jump_County_Crossing_ss_Cityplan.esl
space2jump_Croup_Manor_ss_Cityplan.esl
space2jump_Hangmans_Alley_ss_Cityplan.esl
space2jump_Jamaica_Plain_ss_Cityplan.esl
space2jump_Oberland_Station_ss_Cityplan.esl
space2jump_Outpost_Zimonja_ss_Cityplan.esl
space2jump_The_Castle_ss_Cityplan.esl
TBOS-RaiderNormalFixMale.esl
TBOSBodyTalk2LooksMenu.esl
DCHideout.esl
Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp
ArmorKeywords.esm
HUDFramework.esm
SimSettlements.esm
XDI.esm
NAC.esm
Snap'n Build.esm
Homemaker.esm
Z_Architect.esm
CROSS_CoA.esl
WorkshopFramework.esm
CompanionIvy.esm
Horrorghouls2.1.esl
tooun_Animationpack.esl
OWR.esp
OWR_CraftableDecor.esp
EndorsCustomCombatArmor.esp
TrueStormsFO4-EarlierSunsets.esp
TrueStormsFO4-EarlierSunsetsFH.esp
TrueStormsFO4-FarHarbor.esp
TrueStormsFO4-NukaWorld-FH-Compat.esp
CROSS_BrotherhoodRecon.esp
CROSS_CourserStrigidae.esp
CROSS_Cybernetics.esp
CROSS_GoreCrits.esp
CROSS_GoreCrits_FarHarborPatch.esp
TheKite_Railroad_Handmaiden.esp
GCM.esp
Eli_Armour_Compendium.esp
Eli_ArmourCollection.esp
Fixed Alpha Map.esp
FO4Hotkeys.esp
ExtendedHairColors.esp
LooksMenu.esp
LooksMirror.esp
OverlaySample.esp
CROSS_MojaveManhunter.esp
Armorsmith Extended.esp
AA FusionCityRising.esp
OutcastsAndRemnants.esp
ProjectValkyrie.esp
Depravity.esp
Atomic World.esp
SwampsEXPANDED.esp
FCOM.esp
3DNPC_FO4.esp
QuietVats.esp
Crimsomrider's Accessories.esp
WestTekTacticalOptics.esp
Far West Minutemen.esp
My_Minutemen.esp
MilitarizedMinutemen.esp
MinutemenMerged.esp
CUTE.esp
Holsters & sheaths.esp
Survivalist GoBag.esp
NAC-FarHarbor.esp
NAC-NukaWorld.esp
OCDispenser.esp
Unique NPCs - Creatures and Monsters.esp
LooksMenu Customization Compendium.esp
Lots More Facial Hair.esp
Lots More Male Hairstyles.esp
MiscHairstyle.esp
MoreBeards2.esp
MoreHairstyles4Male3.1.esp
MjolnirMKVB.esp
The Wandering Scavver- Damaged & Heterochromia Iridium Eyes Custom Lashes.esp
UniqueFollowers.esp
Crimsomrider's Unique Furniture.esp
WestTekTacticalOptics-AWKCR.esp
DeadBodyCollision.esp
True Shadows - All DLC.esp
Pip-Boy Flashlight.esp
WastelandFashion.esp
WastelandFashionAccessories.esp
KSHairdos.esp
Synth Overhaul.esp
Weapon Brackets.esp
LMBTOverlays.esp
VisibleWeapons.esp
TransferSettlements.esp
Immersive HUD.esp
KSHairdos_oel.esp
OCDecorator.esp
OCDecoratorDLC.esp
More Smarter Companions Mod.esp
ManufacturingExtended.esp
PiP-Boy2000.esp
PiP-Boy2000_Pip-BoyFlashlight.esp
EPO.esp
VisibleWeaponsOnPacks.esp
SettleObjExpandPack.esp
SSEX.esp
CREAtiveClutter.esp
HuntingRifleSounds.esp
Synths Revamped.esp
WheelMenu.esp
SettlementMenuManager.esp
SettleObjExpandPack-LightShadowDisabler.esp
xce.esp
XM2010_SniperRifle_by_tooun.esp
XM2010_SniperRifle_SST.esp
PaladinBaileyRedRocket.esp
Professional Ammo Crafting.esp
FlaconOil HD ReTexture_Performance Pack_Part_1.esp
FlaconOil HD ReTexture_Performance Pack_Part_2.esp
BAM-BetterArmoryMod.esp
commonwealthextended.esp
EBSO.esp
HaxGlovePorts.esp
Mercenary.esp
TTOutfit.esp
2RTR-HighSpeedHats.esp
PiperCaitCurieDialogueOverhaul.esp
Z_Horizon.esp
CUTE2.esp
Z_Horizon_DEFUI.esp
Z_Horizon_DLC_All.esp
Z_Horizon_Loot_Respawn.esp
Z_Horizon_Loot_Respawn_DLC.esp
Z_Horizon_Timescale.esp
C_VWAS.esp
HK_UMP.esp
McMillanCS5.esp
RU556.esp
HuntingShotgun.esp
Ak5C.esp
HK_MP5.esp
RussianAssaultPack.esp
MP7.esp
1CAS_serviceRifle.esp
SREP.esp
Mk14 Redux.esp
AR70 Assault Rifle.esp
ehtyeci_MPX.esp
F4NVServiceRifleRedux.esp
P220.esp
SimSettlements_MegaPack_YearOne.esp
SimSettlements_MegaPack_YearTwo.esp
SimSettlements_XPAC_Conqueror.esp
MilitarisedMinutemen_PatchesAddon.esp
Minutemen Liberators - MilMin.esp
LeeEnfieldNo4MkI.esp
Mosin.esp
EnclaveBunkerHome.esp
WorkshopPlus.esp
SimSettlements_CityPlanPack_ContestEntries.esp
UlfSkinOverlay.esp
USP Mod.esp
Horizon Unique NPCs Creatures Patch.esp
ScavengedMercGear.esp
AKMProject.esp
Jack_McClain.esp
JackMcClainPatch.esp
3dscopes-replacer.esp
GhillieModRedux.esp
GhillieModRedux - LMCC.esp
GhillieModRedux - XCE.esp
Kalashnikov_Project_FO4.esp
VAFS Redux.esp
VAFS Redux Horizon Patch.esp
VAFS Redux Horizon DLC Patch.esp
Patch - Horizon - Tales from the Commonwealth.esp
Brutal Death.esp
FG_ReloadSounds.esp
Reload Sounds.esp
Better Locational Damage.esp
Better Locational Damage - DLC_Automatron.esp
Better Locational Damage - DLC_Far_Harbor.esp
Better Locational Damage - DLC_Nuka_World.esp
Better Locational Damage - DLC_WWorkshop.esp
SPTFIRE.esp
Weapons of Fate.esp
Better VATS - 0.75.esp
BLD - Leveled Lists - DLC.esp
Reverb and Ambiance Overhaul.esp
GhoulIdleSound.esp
LOST Audio Tweaks.esp
SurvivalOptions.esp
helmetNightVD.esp
Nexus_PMC.esp
ESPExplorerFO4.esp
Gas Masks of the Wasteland.esp
Gas Mask NPC.esp
PollutedClimate-Winter.esp
Nuclear Winter.esp
Vivid Fallout - All in One - Best Choice.esp
AWARHERO The Great Green Jewel.esp
Boston Natural Surroundings.esp
TrueGrass.esp
NW_AllDLC.esp
NW_Clothing.esp
NW_NAC.esp
SKKCombatStalkers.esp
SKKBattleground.esp
CompanionIvy_Mags.esp
CompanionIvy_quest.esp
ellen.esp
PL-14.esp
ArdentArmours.esp
Gas Mask ArmorKeywords.esp
Gas Mask Hardcore Drop Rate.esp
Gas Mask Horizon.esp
NW_Gas Masks of the Wasteland.esp
3dscopes-mosin.esp
3dscopes-replacer-leeenfield.esp
Modular Arms - AR15 v0.08.1.esp
BDO Hair.esp
ParagonHairs.esp
walkers.esp
RadRatsCommonwealth.esp
Project Reality Footsteps FO4.esp
WMServiceRifle+SREP.esp
TFRangerGear.esp
BLD_Horizon_Patch.esp
MergedPatchtest.esp
MergedPatchtest3.esp
LString_Bow.esp
HoneyBadger.esp
GhoulBlood.esp
Horizon MFG Patch.esp
OutfitSwitcher.esp
ZombieWalkersMoreGhoulsPatch.esp
NVRH Enhanced.esp
Zaz Particles.esp
True Nights v03.esp
OWR_CraftableDecor_CW.esp
FanClub_XMLAR_FO4.esp
GD_Armors.esp
L96a1.esp
M4A1.esp
^loadorder if it helps
 

MrCJohn

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Put Workshop Framework BEFORE Sim Settlements...

And dear lord... bless you... I get wanting everything... but you have Horizon, Better Locational Damage, etc...

you have True Storms and NAC ...

Cross Gore CRITS I think has issues...

And AAF on top of it...

etc...

Honestly, you could cut that list in half..... if you are doing city plans and etc... you don't need all those build mods... just pick essentials... Pick one weather. TS or NAC alone can have their own issues. Zombie walkers Mod Author hasn't updated and I believe he even said it was broken...

And I don't have a clue what a "mergedtestpatch" is... and you have multiples...

Consider just cleaning it up, cut everything out you don't need except the essentials, show a new load order... make some decisions about what you really want/need...

John

PS - (I get the LL stuff... disable all of that for now. That can be loaded after you get base game/mods working)
 

1ae0bfb8

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that's one of the best/worst load orders i've ever seen. does your game actually start?
 

MrCJohn

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that's one of the best/worst load orders i've ever seen. does your game actually start?

I didn't see the kitchen sink.... :help

He needs help and somehow we thought we were the masochists... :)

@Ebix

1) uninstall mods
2) uninstall game from Steam
3) delete everything within your Fallout 4 game folder
4) Re-install game in Steam
5) Validate local files
6) Delete CC content in your data folder
7) Look at this guide
https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/23556

8) Decide what you even to want to play. Conqueror? Horizon? Let's pick one system. To start. Then you can add to you build order as you learn...

Okay? Okay. Now go! Let us know when you reach #8. Then we can see where you are heading...

John
 

1ae0bfb8

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PS - Do I even want to know what "honeybadger.esp" is????? ;) Sounds like an @uituit time :)
I'm hoping its a gun, but there are LL mods in that list of literally every FO4 mod that ever existed, so it could be something I don't even want to think about.
 

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PS - Do I even want to know what "honeybadger.esp" is?????
eck

WSFW before ss as MrCjohn has said, and prune some mods.
 

Ebix

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So yes i very much have thrown everything AND the kitchen sink at this load order, it totally could be cut in half but its one of those things that i (somehow) got it to work after tinkering for long enough that now that it DOES work i kind of just went "Don't touch anything no updates, nothing!" (not completely true but pretty close)

Many of the things in here are 'private' mods that can be found on discord, so yes the Honeybadger is a gun :P

Things in my game actually run very well, its harder than Horizon wanted, adds a fun war system with Conquer, keeps me interested with building with Sim Settlements, and with Depravity, Valkyrie, Fusion City lets me explore interesting story beats in a more well thought out campaign - sometimes throwing everything and the kitchen sink at something can actually work.. =P

Back on point a bit xD
Other than moving Workshop Framework above SS is there anything else that stands out -in placement- that could work to fix this specific problem? ((also do keep in mind this 'problem' at this point for me is little more than curiosity, i've lived without it since it was first made, i can live without it going forward; i am just curious if i can get it to show up without losing my current save -keeping in mind at this point in time in someone else's game they would be about 75% of the way through-
 
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Phil_T_Casual

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Short answer no there's nothing else to do.
The HUD is flash and the amount of resources your PC/game are using can have an impact on it's ability to function. That loadorder will be eating resources.
If you want to keep this save and are ok to have quirks like this then I wouldn't even move WSFW above SS at this stage. You have a lot going on in that loadorder and changing anything will more than likely break it.
 
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