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For the survivor players. (Chewing Milk)

Muddball

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So I've been doing it manually in my games, but it would be nice if you could flip your Milk items over from Food-items to Water-Items.

I manually tune them down because I'm playing in Horizon, but I think all survivor players would enjoy it if they were able to stop chewing their milk. :bad
 
milk ? where you find milk ? is not in base fallout 4, and sim settlement dont had milk too so ?

Edit : sorry wrong tread :D
 
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Y'know. I always drank milk whenever I was kind of hungry (or for breakfast!). Never really connected milk with quenching thirst.
--but sure, I can make milk quench thirst instead :aye:
 
Normal cow milk is about 87% water, but ocean water is 99.1% water with salt in it, and it doesn't quench your thirst at all. While both might hydrate you, the remaining components would cause other issues. The fat, protein, and lactose content of milk generally means it should satisfy / suppress appetite before quenching any kind of thirst cravings or hydration issues. However, research seems to indicate that milk might be a better hydrating agent than water, though how this is possible boggles my chemist mind and I would be suspicious of any research that tries to reach that conclusion.

Now, here's the thing: soups in the game generally satisfy some hydration and some hunger requirements per bowl (despite being made with dirty water), and while this is generally true in reality, soups are also usually seasoned with spices and salts, which wouldn't help your hydration levels at all as much as the game lets on. BUT, I bring this up because there is a code in place to make food items both hydrating and nourishing, and I think that would be more appropriate for milk than simple hydration or nutrition alone.
 
I figured Brahmin milk would be more on par with a thick chunky curd.... so chewing is probably correct... and ew... that's repulsive... im done... haha
 
That's kinda interesting KIF, I didn't think about it from that angle. However, because there is already literally cereal thanks to Altairp, the stand alone milk seems better suited to be just a drink item IMHO.

Your the best, Altairp for doing that. Have you thought about putting more food items into the Cooking menu? Your mod seems best suited to it already
 
I figured Brahmin milk would be more on par with a thick chunky curd.... so chewing is probably correct... and ew... that's repulsive... im done... haha
Honestly, the molerat milk struck me that way. I know melons have a bit of a half and half food/water going on, I can easily see Molerat Milk going down chunky. Unlike us tho, I think fallout settlers would count their blessings and be happy that a frothing glass of milk could keep hunger at bay.
 
That's kinda interesting KIF, I didn't think about it from that angle. However, because there is already literally cereal thanks to Altairp, the stand alone milk seems better suited to be just a drink item IMHO.

Your the best, Altairp for doing that. Have you thought about putting more food items into the Cooking menu? Your mod seems best suited to it already
Yes. I'd love to add more foods, eventually.
The issue? I realized that making believable foods, and balancing them, is hard. So I kind of momentarily pushed that aside for a while.
 
Have you looked at horizon's menu? Lotta good places to start there if you haven't peeped it yet. Of course its balanced for survival players so the food items don't really have the numbers for a normal playthrough, but on the other hand how many vanilla items do nothing except heal HP and add a pittance of rads?

Myself, I'd love to see more of what you did with the sugar bombs and milk. Wedding a food item to a drink item and having a final product that's worth more then the sum of its parts. I'm trying to do that for myself but I haven't figured out cooking pot recipes yet in the Creation Kit.
 
Yes. I'd love to add more foods, eventually.
The issue? I realized that making believable foods, and balancing them, is hard. So I kind of momentarily pushed that aside for a while.
Can you at least give some nonzero value to your brahmin milk & sugarbombs? Maybe something like the sum of the value of the ingredients? The satiation seems to depend on the monetary value alone, and currently eating such a bowl of corn flakes doesn't sate you in survival.
 
Can you at least give some nonzero value to your brahmin milk & sugarbombs? Maybe something like the sum of the value of the ingredients? The satiation seems to depend on the monetary value alone, and currently eating such a bowl of corn flakes doesn't sate you in survival.
Damn it, Bethesda.
 
Just throw in some marshmallows or banana slices.

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Huh, is the Molerat Milk & Sugerbombs supposed to produce a 0 weight item?
 
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Would love to see more food items myself. Another place to start is a mod I use on xbone, but here's the nexus link. I like it cause it adds recipes and items to the commonwealth, meaning you have to find this stuff to figure out how to cook it. It's called Commonwealth Buff-et. https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/29390

Oh and looking forward to the new update. Chicken coops and rabbit hutches? Hell yeah.
 
Honestly, the molerat milk struck me that way. I know melons have a bit of a half and half food/water going on, I can easily see Molerat Milk going down chunky. Unlike us tho, I think fallout settlers would count their blessings and be happy that a frothing glass of milk could keep hunger at bay.

Interestingly, actual molerat milk is extreamly watery (which was actually unexpected to the scientists who examined it expecting a high nutrition content milk due to the eusocial structure of the naked molerat)
 
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