Question Crashing when going through downtown Boston

[Unkownmaskedman]

Just a quick question is anyone having issues getting through the area around mass fusion, old corner bookstore, good neighbor and hay market mall? This keeps occurring to my characters that have war options setup to have multiple settlements, under control of conqueror factions from faction packs. But my characters that don't have war options active, I would see a bit of lag or random hiccups when going through the area with a rare CTD. But other then that I can get through that section with very few issues. Right now I am trying to do a quest from the mod depravity, but I keep crashing as soon as I try to get onto the roof of haymarket mall. Also is the default save file size for new characters using war options suppose to be at 47mb? or there is a issue on my end cause I know my default start size for new character save files suppose to be at 35 mb.

 

[MrCJohn]

I don't know about the war options specifically... but depending on your cities pre-build or with pre-conquerored, I know with my pre-builds on Nexus, 20 to 30 settlements, level 3 b4 war options, would run around 45mb... not sure where you get the info that the "default" is 35mb?

I have not seen nor would advocate there is a default as it all depends on the number of mods etc. you have installed. I would ask who specifically (or source) of the 35mb.

I am playing a non conqueror game now with all of the OAR/Depravity mods, build mods, and SS 3-1 installed... and I am at 25mb... and just in Sanctuary... as you build it only goes up...

if you have xEdit, I would look into depravity and see if there is a location conflict or a worldspace one... not sure what your LO is (post with spoiler) … and we can see...

john

 

[Unkownmaskedman]

that was typo without war options when I start a new character most of save files are 35 mb in size and then go up once I start using sim settlements.

Spoiler: Load order

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[Phil_T_Casual]

Nothing in SS or CQ can cause you to CTD in Boston.
35mb before using prebuilds sounds excessive. I expect that amount after I prebuild 20 settlements to L3, not before.

 

[MrCJohn]

I would probably put it in the area of pack attack with unique npc . Not SS or conqueror.

 

[Unkownmaskedman]

I going to try adjust the performance settings in Pack attack npc edition and see if that helps. Just created a new character without using war options and I am going do another run through the area with PANPC enabled and then disabled.