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Non-SS Bug Crash when on the loading screen (Crash log)

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ScottyNitro17

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I haven't the foggiest on what is the cause, All that happened was I died from a mole rat, New character, The game went to the loading screen then about 10 seconds later it CTD, This is the error report, I Keep seeing to complaining about the same things, Navmesh, A radio from DLC, And sim settlements.

Anyone have a clue on what it's bitching over xD

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Sorry, not knowledgeable enough to assist you on that. You might find some useful info in this thread.

Other than that I can only offer you the very basic first line of support questions; if you disable SS, does the problem persist?
 
NikVilKok said:
Sorry, not knowledgeable enough to assist you on that. You might find some useful info in

Other than that I can only offer you the very basic first line of support questions; if you disable SS, does the problem persist?
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I'd only be able to answer that if the game crashes with sim settlements removed right......Awkward
 
The warnings from Sim Settlements aren't anything to worry about, nor is the DLC04 Radio thing, all of that is normal depending on how your game happened to load things when you first started it.

The other lines with CSE_SpawnPoint scripts and whichever is printing CWMR to the logs are the ones I'd check on. The initials might help you figure out which mods they are, I don't recognize either.
 
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I think cse is commonwealth spawns extended. It's not a mod I've tried though, but if you do have it probably first step is to disable and see what happens
 
If you have all of your mods unchecked, does the crashing go away? If yes, then we'll just have to help you find a good load order (remove some mods, reorganize some others, etc). If the crashing continues with all mods disabled, it's probably a save file corruption.
 
Try LOOT to arrange your load order. I actually checked some mods in FO4Edit and was surprised how smart LOOT actually was, it fixed an issue with one mod that had a bad edit with another mod that had an accidental ITM with Fallout.esm, but that ITM with Fallout.esm nullified the change that the "bad mod" did cause LOOT loaded the ITM mod right after the "bad mod". So running LOOT can absolutely help vs CTD.

And according to the unofficial patches team even if you disable mods information from them are still gonna be baked into your save in some cases, so you might need to restart with a new game with some mods disabled to solve this.

And just FYI, sometimes vanilla FO4 without mods will crash sometimes, it's just how it is. There are people that writes on Steam forums everyday and they have just bought the game and have no mods at all and crash alot.
 
LOOT is already in use pretty much every time I install a new mod, I didn't disable all mods but some and it still caused the crash, I'll start a new game.......As much as that pains me and I'll just console myself in the level I was at before the issue.
If that sorts it then we have a fix.
 
The best way to troubleshoot this is with a save that has crashing happening consistently. Sounds like you have several.

Pick one that you know how to trigger the crash to work with. Now try disabling all of your mods (you don't have to uninstall them, just uncheck them in the plugins tab of NMM or the Mods -> Load Order screen in game). See if the crash continues.

If the crash does NOT happen with all mods disabled, then you'll want to try a half-split test. To do that:

1. Start by re-enabling the first half of your mods.
2. Load the game and try and repeat the crash. If you can, these are your "bad half", otherwise, your other mods are your "bad half".
3. Now disable all but half of your "bad half" of mods.
4. Repeat steps 2 and 3.

Each time you find the "bad half" and test again, you cut the number of potential problems in half. Since you can only have max of 254 mods, this means you can find the problem mod in 8 tries or less, no matter how many mods you have installed.
 
kinggath said:
The best way to troubleshoot this is with a save that has crashing happening consistently. Sounds like you have several.

Pick one that you know how to trigger the crash to work with. Now try disabling all of your mods (you don't have to uninstall them, just uncheck them in the plugins tab of NMM or the Mods -> Load Order screen in game). See if the crash continues.

If the crash does NOT happen with all mods disabled, then you'll want to try a half-split test. To do that:

1. Start by re-enabling the first half of your mods.
2. Load the game and try and repeat the crash. If you can, these are your "bad half", otherwise, your other mods are your "bad half".
3. Now disable all but half of your "bad half" of mods.
4. Repeat steps 2 and 3.

Each time you find the "bad half" and test again, you cut the number of potential problems in half. Since you can only have max of 254 mods, this means you can find the problem mod in 8 tries or less, no matter how many mods you have installed.
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I'll give that a go in the morning but for now.....I'll stick to Osiris: New dawn
 
kinggath said:
The best way to troubleshoot this is with a save that has crashing happening consistently. Sounds like you have several.

Pick one that you know how to trigger the crash to work with. Now try disabling all of your mods (you don't have to uninstall them, just uncheck them in the plugins tab of NMM or the Mods -> Load Order screen in game). See if the crash continues.

If the crash does NOT happen with all mods disabled, then you'll want to try a half-split test. To do that:

1. Start by re-enabling the first half of your mods.
2. Load the game and try and repeat the crash. If you can, these are your "bad half", otherwise, your other mods are your "bad half".
3. Now disable all but half of your "bad half" of mods.
4. Repeat steps 2 and 3.

Each time you find the "bad half" and test again, you cut the number of potential problems in half. Since you can only have max of 254 mods, this means you can find the problem mod in 8 tries or less, no matter how many mods you have installed.
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Well then good sir, I have results:

The culprit was "Sim Settlements-PCDugAddons" However a new issue is occurring but isn't an issue for me and might be fixed with a save clean, So the new issue is when I die, I'll crash to main menu instead of CTD but I'm perfectly ok with a main menu crash over the Desktop crash.
 
Cool - glad to know which one it was.

You could use the same half-split trick to find out what's causing your death's to crash you to the main menu, especially if you've got a fatman handy!
 
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