Been having a ton of issues that seem to be script lag related

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  1. Lynna

    Lynna Member

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    Howdy all,

    I would like to say that I was away from the game for at least a year. When I cam back, I reloaded all of my mods to get the latest and greatest of everything. Before I left, I didn't have any of these problems (except for the infinite black screen on load when I had too many city plans running). So I've been experiencing these problems for the last few months. I have restarted at least ten times in the last 3 months because I keep hitting these problems, so I re-work my mod list and start again from scratch.

    I've been having a lot of issues with settlers that I've been trying to work through. I get four or five cities built and I can no longer assign people, they randomly become unassigned (which is a pain when it's the provisioners created by IDEK's brilliant plot get unassigned), too much resource is being produced (more than should be) or too little is being produced. The number of settlers at a city are reported incorrectly when looking at the map. Recruitable Settlers are also showing me that there is a script issue. I can recruit maybe 5 or 6 before any new ones become unresponsive.

    Bringing my save up in Fallrim tools shows over 600 active scripts. I'm running WFW and Workshop plus. Most of the active scripts were Fallout.esm related, so I decided that this coming run-through I would take out Scrap Everything (I mod I've been using for years without issue - but I thought maybe these active scripts could be because of things deleted through scrap everything).

    The number of city plans I've loaded vary depending on where I am in the troubleshooting. My last game had about 15 loaded, with only about 3 running but I've had issues with no city plans loaded at all (except RotC ones that come pre-installed). I just did a significant purge of my load order, taking out as many mods as possible that might have had a script in them. I also gutted just the number of Sim Settlement add ons, just in case.

    So, specifically, I'm running Sim Settlements All-in-one. I'm not running Conquerer (until a liberator quest path comes out, at least - the addon looks really interesting, just not the "play the bad guy sort of girl"). I have played with and without city plans. I'm really going to cry if the problem is Scrap Everything, because I hate that everyone lives in filth. They have brooms! They can sweep up the leaves! Gah!

    I am continuing to work on the issue. I know that there is not enough information in this to help me with this - I just wanted to throw this up here so that if anyone else (or me for that matter) ever figure out what the problem is, it can help someone else having the same problem.

    Oh - edit: I've been running the base version of Baka Scrap Heap since it came out (in the last 3 play-through attempts). I just decided to try the beta version and choose the 3x option.

    Lynna
     
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  2. MrCJohn

    MrCJohn Well-Known Member Community Rockstar

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    Scrap everything conflicts with SS.

    Best to get rid of it. Look up @Whisper Clean My Settlement.

    And at 600 active scripts, your game is broken. Even when i run 400+ mods i only have 3 to 5.

    Have the cry and move on. You will find that it will be okay. Lots of mods i love are just incompatible. And lost a long time ago.

    John
     
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  3. Lynna

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    I have just downloaded Clean my settlement (and I already removed Scrap Everything - a tear may have been shed). We'll see. I'll update if this helps with a new play-through.
     
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    MrCJohn Well-Known Member Community Rockstar

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    Make sure you start a new game.
     
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    That's what I mean when I say start a new play-through, just so that no one got the idea that I was just uninstalling ESPs and moving on.
     
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    I suggest a pre-test: go into godmode then head over to the entrance area to Nuka World. Let us know if it looks weird (bushes floating in the air over the road, elevated highway appears, etc).
     
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    Will do, Whisper. I'll let you know.
     
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  8. Lynna

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    Everything looks great in Nuka World, Whisper. Thanks!
     
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  9. Jay1283

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    Not to make you nervous but clean my settlement fried 2 of my saves with over 20k precombines and preculls destroyed. It’s a very dangerous mod, however I’ve been told it has to do with my load order, but 20k in 2 saves of less than 3 days?
     
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    Did you put Clean My Settlement higher in your loadorder than other mods which have generated precombines?

    What version of Clean My Settlement are you using?
     
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    Had it at the bottom and 1.7c, I hate making it look like I’m ragging on a mod, you guys work so hard! But when something doesn’t work right, it’s only right to speak up.
     
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    Below it was glock p19 and fnx-45, does that matter?
     
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    Weapons mods and stuff shouldn’t be an issue. Where it needs to be is:

    ...texture-only-replacing flora overhauls (Fallout 4 Seasons)...
    Clean My Settlement
    ...anything which adds new settlements, changes previs and precombines (like Boston FPS Fix), adding extra flora (like A Forest, Borealis), etc...

    The thing is that the previs/precombine changing stuff has “newer” things than Clean My Settlement. They must win, so must be loaded after. Though I won’t rule out that the two are simply incompatible, in which case choose the one you want most.

    There was definitely a couple of broken builds of Clean My Settlement. (Thank the blasted Creation Kit for the first one, and my clumsiness for the 1.7b version.)

    If you unfortunately got one of the two broken builds - yeah they totally wrecked FO4. Weird stuff like Dogmeat’s bleedout being one of the previs in a couple places in Far Harbour kind of thing. If you got one of those the only fix was to revert to an earlier save, or start another game from scratch.

    If 1.7c busted your game from a new save - I’ve not experienced this myself - please tell me where it showed. I will fire up a brand new game and go have a look at what’s going on.
     
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    My load order is as follows unofficial patch hudframeworkxdi, homemaker,workshopframework,simsettlements, snap n build, settlement keywords, etheeon master plan, Nicaragua cola,Slocum, recruitable settlers, Sam, idekslogistics station, space jump coastal cottage-the castle space jump, true storms, alternate settlements, stand-alone, quad accelerator, AdvSettleTurretSet-Real, at 15 family, asharafo4 steampunk, better settlers no lollygag, better vendor stalls, kshairdos, icebreakerpiper, Craftable ammo plus 7.62, homemaker streetlights, industrialcity, krebs, kuro, linger power lines 3x, lots more facial hair, looks menu, pip-pad, looks menu customization compendium, lots more female hairstyles, lots more male hairstyles, m248, Tim’s militia duster, the kite militia woman, mmafatigues, carryweight 2000, no affinity cool down, northland diggers, azarponytailhairstyles, nexus once, it’s Mx extended, settlement menu manager, settlementobjexpandpack, sim settlements leader pack, cbbe, 1dayvendor reset, and wearable backpacks and pouches, Vienna vending machine, seaopsamutzvault88, vault land, thematic and practice, sayac21x Craftable handmaderounddolby1021, skjalert, diverse visitors, jtbryant utilities, p42, more scavenging stations, seburom5 simpleliving, CFC foundations-2nd, vanilla textures, gmsworkshop, immersive vendors, power conduit and pylon increase radius, rich merchants, pass through, oakleymframe, saya scar, eyes of beauty, westtektacticlegloves, Conquerer, gr123 west ten tacticle gloves, modern Oakley gloves, short hair piper, atom girl outfit, kbar32, mcxredacted, k9tacticalharness, railroad pack, boats institute, gunner Conq, all sets extended,castle restored, Eli armoircompendium, recruitable settlers, watminuteman, classic shacks, backpacks of common, better settlers, minutemen overhaul, institute settlements mega pack year 2 , jibresidential, capt laser beam jam pads,better settlers ccs pack better settlers light armor only, minuteman replacer, workshop plus, aresappleseed, beautiful female settlers, militarized minutemen, aresappleseed, beautiful settlers bs comparable, 3dnpcfo4settler, b84 themed resitantials, awesometown, sa addon CBC air, defenses brake, atoms glory, Mojave’s man hunter, scrappers addon, cho1-neinlot, sim addon, trailer park addon, Wattz laser gun, p90, aer15, sim addon even,ru556, aehshacking up, ak74, onlyfemalesettlers vanilla, better settlers mostly female, ultimate defenses, simhomstead, vivid fallout, companion heather, whisper power plots, home improvement, ruined settlement, down time, hotmama NPCs settlers and minutemen, whisper walled gardens, mjcaimsettlementsaddon, wv2simaddon, hellfirenew, honey badger, Altairp animal farm, sim towers, sim intimate spaces,ssaddon, pcdugsimsettle, pra random addon, mp7, uzi, Aquila, sim settlements contest pack, 3dnpc sim settlements, faction flag redux, eve remnants armor, the enclave faction, gear of the enclave, America rising, faction pack the enclave, hipolyfaces, wow makeupcolors, minuteman variations, are damage modifiers, glock 19, hi ump, 3dscopes, realistic death physics, green commonwealth, true storms FarHarbor, sr1mp, militarized minutemen patches addon, minuteman liberators mil in, militarized minutemen scarvesfix, raze my settlement, spawn settler button as, dk811compantion tweaks,?reload sounds, alysraza overlays, immersive scrapping tidy up, -immersive scrapping, fnx45, blue tmbmil patch, WatM mm mmupaiaas, WatM mm mmupaia, custom patch, I know immersive scrapping is a disaster but after clean my settlements I needed a fresh start; it showed somewhere around the crafting bench, I just got my new soldiers and was about to level them up via clothes and guns, glock 19, to be exact.
     
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    I want to install post apocalyptic homemade weapon replacer, should I wait until next play thru?
     
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    best news I could have got, I can’t go back to those saves but my new start is rolling out like a champ, Preston gravy and hit me up are my next targets, red rocket is the only place between! Backup is the fix-45 to my glock auto rifle. 20 shots, can’t miss.
     
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    Whisper Well-Known Member Patreon Supporter Community Rockstar Vault Librarian Verified Builder

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    Thank goodness for that! I was really worried that I'd screwed up something big-time.

    If you do find any issues, don't hesitate to let me know - on here or on the Clean My Settlement page. I'll do my best to fix the darned thing up.
    --edit--
    Around the workbench, it sounds like something really got messed up. Hmmm...
     
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    In the words of Adam Sandler, it was ok! He broke that workbench not you or I, shooter McGann! Can’t beat that.
     
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    do you like that load order or does it need work, fraud things aren’t exact.
     
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