Question XBOX Can't fly and no speed boost

[MadGax]

Using ver 1.0.5b of WSP on Xbox, with it last in my load order.
I cannot fly or gain speed boost.
I have the WSP holotape and the tools, but no fly or speed. Both are turned on in the WSP Setting.

 

[Whisper]

Caveat, I don’t have an xbox...

Sometimes the settings can get “stuck” - they look like they’re set, yet they’re not. On the PC you can toggle things a few times and that seems to unstick them.

(As to *why* they get stuck, I have no real idea. I have vague thoughts about heavy script load - however that’s only a personal thought with no shred of proof and etc.)

 

[MadGax]

That's not working. Plus there is no way to toggle speed on and off.

 

[MadGax]

This is on a brand new game that I just walked out of root cellar.
I just had it working on a different play through on my Xbox while using Immersive Gameplay.
I uninstalled I.G. and mods associated with it and installed SS, Conqueror mods and War Never Changes, started a new game and now its not working.
I remember having trouble getting it to work on the I.G. playthrough and I fixed it by installing the WSP ver 1 that Voretty ported over https://bethesda.net/en/mods/fallout4/mod-detail/4107321.
But that does not seem to be working this time.

I also disabled WNC and still no fly or speed

 

[Whisper]

Regarding speed, is it changeable on XBox? (I have no idea.)

For what everything else might be doing...I hate feeling helpless.

 

[MadGax]

Ya there's a percentage you can set it to.
I have found the culprit by the way, it was War Never Changes.
Gonna go test that on my PC and see what happens.

 

[MadGax]

Yep just confirmed it on the PC as well.
War Never Changes disables flying and speed in WSP, regardless of load order.
I guess WNC changes the race which is how flying is enabled in WSP, per my understanding.
I wonder if that can be patched, the WNC author appears to have moved on.

 

[Whisper]

I guess WNC changes the race which is how flying is enabled in WSP, per my understanding.

You are correct - WS+ changes the player to essentially a flying head race. Sounds like WNC either changes the race or locks it down for some reason. Nice bit of hunting that one down!

@kinggath you might find it interesting to check out the War Never Changes mod - if you ever run out of things to do.

 

[MadGax]

So, I have an update. I had resigned myself to no fly or speed and went forward with using WNC.
Today I went to load up my last save and my game crashed right after startup, twice.
So i though is should check for mod updates, and UFO4P and BOS Conqueror faction pack.
Updated both of those and loaded a save that was 2 mins older, and the game loaded with no crash, I then went into build mode and I could fly and had speed. WAHOOO!
I am not sure if the UFO4P did something, or maybe an xbox shut down reboot thing, or maybe WNC is broken.
I have WS+ above WNC in the load order, And on the PC side it is still not working, so I don't quite understand what kind of voodoo is going on here, but I ain't gonna touch it and just play.

 

[MadGax]

And another update, because I was having problems with Hudframework I had to shift some sim settlement mods around and delete and reinstall Hudf, and flight/speed stopped working again.
Not gonna fight it...

 

[Whisper]

Ah...changing your loadorder around is a bad, bad idea...

 

[Geoff]

Load order is a problem and a big bugbear of mine. I only use Bethesda to load my mods (Please don't ask why). I start by installing each mod from a carefully worked out list, so that when they are updated i can change the load order back to where they where before the update moved their position in the load order.