Question Script Override Not Working, Compatibility Issues?

[Gake_The_Cake]

I've been working on this for the past 3 days so forgive me if I come across as rude.
I isolated the mods which now cause Workshop Framework to break:

• HUDFramework: Was compatible earlier, but not now it seems.
• Standalone Workbenches: Was compatible earlier.
• Crafting Takes Time
• Crafting Rearranged: Was compatible earlier.
• Easy to See Glowing Stuff: Was compatible earlier.
• Place Everywhere: Was compatible earlier.
• Construction Illuminated
• Components Redone: Was compatible earlier.
• Companion Status UI Remastered
• Companion Status HUD

I don't know if the other mods were previously compatible with script override, but I know for certain the others were compatible at once point in time. In fact, I don't recall needing Script Override with HUDFramework nor Easy to See Glowing Stuff.

 

[SailorM24]

Seems like something else might be going on, possible? Different platform but I am using several of those mods and have no issues at all. I don't have the override installed but it is not needed.

 

[Gake_The_Cake]

Seems like something else might be going on, possible? Different platform but I am using several of those mods and have no issues at all. I don't have the override installed but it is not needed.

I didn't try loading just workshop with those mods, but I did isolate them and confirm that they were causing disruptions. Load order also has an impact as "Start Me Up" keeps getting pushed behind Script Override from LOOT, but Script Override breaks when that happens. Still, putting override after those mods did not solve the issue. Each time I load with them they break workshop. I don't know what it could be since the only mod that appears to break is WSFW. To be frank, I finally got my loadorder to not have problems anymore so I don't really want to go back and mess with it again, the Jenga Tower is finally stable I don't want to go back into hell again!

The error message I get specifically is "Workshop is out of date" even though it's the latest version. When I replace workshop I get the one telling you to download script override, even though my script override is installed and 2nd to last on the priorities.

 

[Gake_The_Cake]

My current modlist, not sorted by priority, is:
Aggressive Synth Voice
Everyone's Best Friend
Armorsmith Extended
Settlement Attack Spawns Outside the Settlement -
Baka Framework
Buffout 4
Bullet Counted Reload System (BCR)
Caliente's Beautiful Bodies Enhancer -CBBE-
Caliente's Beautiful Bodies Enhancer -CBBE- reudced
Campsite - Simple Wasteland Camping (and HD Sleeping Bags)
CCKCR - Cooking and Chemistry Keywords Community Resource
Chem Redux
Clock Widget - Show Real Time While Loading
Combat Comments
Companion Tracker
Companions Go Home
Cryo and Fire Damage and Resistances Restored
Custom SPECIAL
D13 Settlement Institute Synth Spy Detection and Elimination
No Power Armor Strength Cap
Delay Nick's Quest - Long Time Coming
Diamond City Expansion
Dogmeat Helmets and Hats
Enhanced Blood Textures
ENB Helper for Fallout 4
Lootable Crates
Encounter Zone Recalculation (Continuous Level Scaling)
Enhanced Lights and FX
Enjoy the Darkness - Flashlights and Night Vision Use Fusion Cells and Overheat - Plus Stealth Fix
Extended Dialogue Interface
Fallout 4 Particle Patch - No More Glowing Objects
Fallsouls - Unpaused Game Menus
FallUI
Fast Corpse despawn
Lootable Crates-Merged DLCs
Filled Brahmin Feed and Water Troughs
Floating Damage
NPCs Travel
Companion Stealth Distance Fix (No Free Hugs) - Now with No Dogmeat in Crosshairs
Freeze Intimidation Overhaul
Sim Settlements 2 - From Sanctuary to Concord - Building Plans Module
Get The Lead Out (ESL Flagged)
Gloomy Glass - All transparent materials revised
Gorgeous Glowing Plasma Weapons V 3.66 - Installer Version by Diranar
Glowing Animals Emit Light (2x Brighter)
IAF Patch chem
Icebreaker - Settlements - Settler Dialogue Overhaul
Immersive Facial Animations REMADE - IFAR
Immersive Animation Framework
Immersive Dogmeat - Smart - Silent - Sneaky
Immersive Footsteps Overhaul - Clanking Clothes and Deep footstep
Immersive Fast Travel
Improver Molotov (Smaller Molotov Explosion And Enhanced Lighting)
Light Flares and ChemLights
Locksmith - Lock Your Doors 'n' Containers
Longer Power Lines
LooksMenu
MCM Settings Manager
Mechanist's Lair Pathfinding Fix
Minutemen Takeover - Nuka World
Mo Betta Scrap - Scrap Material Overhaul
Mod Configuration Menu
Molotov Crafting use Bottles
More Oil
More Shadows
More Smarter Companions Mod
More Uniques - Unique Weapons Expansion
Nac X Fogline Fix
NAC X - NATURAL AND ATMOSPHERIC COMMONWEALTH 10 - Legacy Edition
Natural resistances
No Aggro Impact Landing (Power Armor)
Operator Edits - Companion Fall Damage Immunity
Keep Commonwealth Radiant quests within the Commonwealth
No more cash register sound when XP gain
No More Fake Puddles
No More Glowing Mouths
NPC Accuracy Revised
Sim Settlements 2 Scrappers
Pack Attack (PANPC) Patch Weather Nac.X
PCDug's Build a Wall
Ponytail Hairstyles by Azar v2.5a
Access Pre-War Power Lines
Sim Settlements 2 - Pra's Random Addon 2
Proper Flyers And Posters
Protected Wasteland Merchants
Real Dogmeat Armor
Realistic Conversations Fallout 4
Realistic Death Physics - No Animations
Reina's Vault 88 City Plan for Sim Settlements 2
Reverb and Ambiance Overhaul
Rise of the Commonwealth for Sim Settlements 2
RobCo Patcher
Sandbag Fortifications
Scrap dead things
Settlement Dead Zone Fixes
Settler and Companion Dialogue Overhaul
Settler Sandbox Expansion
Sim Settlements 2 - Ruined Homes and Gardens 2.0
SimHomestead 2 - A SimSettlements 2 addon
Sim Settlements 2 - Apocalyptic Additions Addon Pack
Sim Settlements 2 Child Support
Sim Settlements 2 dlc settlers
Sim Settlements 2 HUD
Sim Settlements 2 Automatron Mod
Workshop Framework
Classic Combat Armor
1950's Feminine Outfits (Vanilla - EVB - CBBE)
Skeletal Adjustments for CBBE
NAC X - MCM Settings Menu
Explosives Expanded
Armor and Weapon Keywords Community Resource (AWKCR)
Legendary Lamps - Lights, Lamps, Pipboy Overhaul
Grenade Expansion Pack 2
Optimization Patches Collection
Address Library for F4SE Plugins
Sim Settlements 2
SS2_XDI Compatibility Patch
Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch
Welcome to Goodneighbor
We Are The Minutemen
Wasteland Venturers Sim Settlements 2 Addon Pack
Wasteland Nights - moon and stars textures
CHEF - Cooking Hunger and Expanded Food
Wasteland Illumination
Settlement Attacks Improved
Wall Pass-Through Power Conduits
Vault-Tec Tools - Sim Settlements 2 Addon Pack
Vault 111 10mm Pistol Locked Up
Unbogus Lunchboxes
Unbogus Health Scaling
Active Effects on HUD
Sleepless Nights
Slower Leveling
Some Assembly Required (Merged DLC - AWKCR - PATCHES)
South of The Sea. (Massive GS and more Expansion) (Final Update July 2020)
Spell Perk Item Distributor
Sprint AP Drain Revised
Stackable Brick Walls and Foundations
STEALTH AND DETECTION SYSTEM
Unique NPCs - 1k textures
Unique NPCs - FOMOD
Stop Burning Cash - No More Scrapable Pre-War Money
Subversion - The Institute-Railroad Alliance Alternate Ending
Summon Companions - Misc. Mods
SS2 Superstructures - A Sim Settlements 2 Addon Pack
Tactical Reload
Targeting Sensors on Recon Scopes
Terrifyer - Ghouls
The Boring Perk Overhaul
The Danse Dilemma (pka Face Maxson etc.)
The Eyes of Beauty Fallout Kaleidoscope Edition - All-in-One
True Frags v1.2
Unbogus Health Ranges 'N More
PANPC
Lighthouse Papyrus Extender
Seasons Change - A Merry Modding Days Mod
Sim Settlements 2 Outfit
RED - Roleplayer's Expanded Dialogue
Smart Looting for Companions
Codsworth and Nick Unassignment Fix
Courage for Codsworth
Sim Settlements 2 - Chapter 2
Sim Settlements 2 - Chapter 3
Sim Settlements 2 - Rags and Riches
Sim Settlements 2 - Extended
SUP F4SE
MGEF Condition Bug Fix
BRAWL - Broken Armor Weapon Loot
Damn Apocalypse
Damn Apocalypse Loot Module
Damn Apocalypse Combat Module
Collection of Damn Apocalypse Tweaks (No Broken Weapons No Hunting)
Feast and Famine- A survival food mod feast
DLC Leveled List Integration
Loads of Ammo - Switchable Ammunition Types
Various Patches for Damn Apocalypse and IHO and IAF
Damn Apocalypse - MCM Settings Menu
Cool Charisma Clothes - Charisma buffs to suits and sunglasses
Shield Framework
Shield Integration Pack
Shield Expansion - SIP Addon
Advanced Animation Framework
Atomic Lust
Immersive Lovers Embrace Remastered
Classic Holstered Weapons System (CHW)
Lootable Stoves
Adjustable Survival Mode Damage
Unlimited Survival Mode - F4SE
Glass Bottle Overhaul
Damn Apocalypse - Loot Module - PANPC Patch
Survival Configuration Menu
Canteens of the Commonwealth
Start Me Up - Alternate Start and Dialogue Overhaul
Portable Duffle Bags (and Power Armor Containers)
NPCs Use Items - Maim 3 Patch
NPCs Use Items
Jet Script Bug Fix
MAIM 3.02
Water Puts Out Fires
Mossberg 500 Pump-Action Shotgun
CRACKLE - Comforting fires for the discerning hobo -
Actually Poisoned Wine
Workshop Framework Script Override

Patches/Mods I made with FOEdit, also part of modlist:
WeaponBalanceReborn
Armorsmith but not OP
GBO Patch
Famine x CHEF
chemlight and flare rebalance

 

[Synystyr1]

Hello, and welcome.

Can you be more specific about the problem you are experiencing? I don't use most of the mods you mentioned in your original post, but I think most, if not all, of us in the community use HUD Framework and Place Everywhere with WSFW and the Override, without issue.

Also, when posting your load order and/or plugins, please post your complete loadorder.txt and/or plugins.txt (usually found at something like C:\Users\"your name"\AppData\Local\Fallout4), and please post them as attachments or under the Spoiler tag.

 

[Captain LaserBeam]

I have found that CHEF often breaks the main quest even with nothing else installed. It's a cool idea, but I wouldn't recommend using it. Also Start Me Up also have been known to cause issues with SS2 as it changes the Main Quest, and that can break SS2. Some folks report using Start Me Up Redux with no issues, but still I find any mod that edits the main quest to be problematic.

 

[Gake_The_Cake]

Also Start Me Up also have been known to cause issues with SS2 as it changes the Main Quest, and that can break SS2. Some folks report using Start Me Up Redux with no issues, but still I find any mod that edits the main quest to be problematic.

Roger that. They're both out as of now.

Also, when posting your load order and/or plugins, please post your complete loadorder.txt and/or plugins.txt (usually found at something like C:\Users\"your name"\AppData\Local\Fallout4), and please post them as attachments or under the Spoiler tag.

I'm using Mod Organizer 2 which doesn't modify the base game one. I managed to find the MO2 load order. I've changed my load order quite a bit since then, including gutting some of the heavier script mods such as PANPC.
Right now starting a new game usually starts up fine, but every 2 to 5 start ups it'll just randomly tell me that Workshop Framework is out of date.

 

[Gake_The_Cake]

Still doing it, still have no idea why. Does anyone know anymore mods incompatible?

 

[Synystyr1]

Still doing it, still have no idea why. Does anyone know anymore mods incompatible?

Note that HUD Framework is currently a hard requirement (although kinggath plans to change it back to a soft requirement; I think it is always a good idea to use), and I recommend putting the WSFW Script Override at the very end, even after ELFX. Otherwise, assuming that your files are all up to date, I'm not sure what would be causing that error to pop up (though I haven't personally used all of the mods you have listed, so it is possible that I am missing something). It is also possible that you have a bad install on something, so you might try verifying your game files (if you are on Steam), and try uninstalling and then reinstalling WSFW and the Override, and well as any mods you notice you might be having issues with.

If none of that is successful, please let us know, and hopefully someone else in the community can offer more ideas.

 

[SailorM24]

Have you done the basics, like cleaned your mod folder of any inactive mods and dealt with loose files? The loose file topic always comes up as a bad to have and you can't leave unused ones in the mod folder. Otherwise your issues random nature makes it very hard to figure out.

 

[Gake_The_Cake]

Have you done the basics, like cleaned your mod folder of any inactive mods and dealt with loose files? The loose file topic always comes up as a bad to have and you can't leave unused ones in the mod folder. Otherwise your issues random nature makes it very hard to figure out.

That's what's making this issue even more confusing: Mod Organizer 2 puts loose files into folders and correctly deletes them. So I'm pulling my hair out because there aren't any loose files! I just did a reinstall and it's still happening. The only thing I can think of at this point is that MO2 put loose files into the wrong folders or that MO2 somehow has a compatibility issue with Workshop Framework directly. Welp, time to delete EVERYTHING and redownload all my mods... Did not want do the nuclear option... But hey, if it's a comparability issue we'll all know once I set the time aside to download everything again (might wait until the weekend, NOT looking forward to this).

Synystyr1:​

It is also possible that you have a bad install on something, so you might try verifying your game files (if you are on Steam), and try uninstalling and then reinstalling WSFW and the Override, and well as any mods you notice you might be having issues with.

I did that before posting this thread.

I should probably mention mods that wouldn't appear on the load order. If these somehow conflict please let me know before the weekend.
ENB and FO4Edit