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Scrap everything and build limits

Gravdigr

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I read the sticky about scrapping non scrappable items and it got me concerned. I originally played FO4 when it came out on PS4 and quit before mods were even available on consoles. I recently started playing again on PC and as I drive truck my only gaming machine is my laptop which now would probably be considered low end (intel i5 6200u 2.3ghz-2.8ghz, geforce 940mx 2Gb, 16GB ram, 256GB ssd + 2TB data drive). I went kinda crazy with the mods and building. I literally scrapped everything in sanctuary except for the house with the workshop. Every house, car, tree, shrub, patch of grass...all of it. I use this big area as my construction test bed. I have built and scrapped many times. My current project is a huge 4 story building I call the thunderdome (my character's name is Max Rocketansky, post apocalyspe world and all). Crafting areas, armory, museum, recreation area, living quarters, rooftop pool and jacuzzi.... I ran the texture optimization mod spending an hour optimizing all the game textures which helped performance a lot. I'm not seeing any performance issues yet that I didn't have with the vanilla game. I figured scrapping everyting would free up resources to build more in the buildable area. But now the scrapping has me concerned. Just how boned am I?

Thanks

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I think its best to read this guide by @damanding

Scrapping Mods and Performance Issues

This will give you insight


Yeah, that's the guide I read, but I have to profess my ignorance on a lot of the programming talk. I was a hardware guy so my vocabulary is lacking. I guess I'll just run with it until I have issues. I went and did some optimizing on my laptop today, uninstalling programs I don't need and trimming down my running processes and startup programs. freed up an extra 5% memory and a few cpu cycles. heck my unnecessary razer mouse software was using 100MB of ram. That's crazy for something that makes the mouse change colors.
 
If Sanctuary is the only place you scrap beyond the normal vanilla limits you'll be mostly fine in terms of performance. Your settlers will most likely struggle with navmesh issues though based on your description. I suggest if you really want a clean slate instead of scrapping everything yourself use a mod like Jenncave's Clean and Simple series. She redoes the navmesh. You'll still have performance issues because precombines are still broken, but at least your settlers can navigate properly. If hers doesn't empty it out enough look into other mods, just make sure they say they've redone the navmeshing and properly cleaned the mod file (disabled instead of deleted items and no ITMs).

Sanctuary is reasonably remote, about as far away as you can get from downtown area. So as long as you don't build crazy heavy in all three: Sanctuary, Red Rocket, and Abernathy you'll be fine. If you build heavily in all three of those settlements however you will definitely have noticeable performance issues and quite possibly crashing. Don't use a settlement build limit extender if you intend to build in all three locations and definitely don't try to build RotC plans in all three locations on your lower end system.
 
Yeah, I've done nothing with red rocket or abernathy. I used a city build for the castle, and the greenhouse. Then I played around laying my own plots at starlight. I didn't build beacons at any of the other settlements (yet) and just gave them enough stuff to keep them happy. I want to try and experiment with an interior bunkhouse\apartment building too...probably in vault 88.
 
I tend to use Red Rocket as a homebase, max of 5 settlers, a nice building on top of Red Rocket to display my power armour, weapons, bobbleheads, books etc, and settlers for idek logistic station, food, something to make them happy and I forgotton the other two lol.

The other two are City Plans (Sanctuary, Albernathy)

laptop which now would probably be considered low end (intel i5 6200u 2.3ghz-2.8ghz, geforce 940mx 2Gb, 16GB ram, 256GB ssd + 2TB data drive).
My test PC, was a lot lower then that, thats where the guide was inspired from. However one thing to note, the guide was based on help from some very good people, my pc was used to verify this and to be honest I could run Fallout 4 on the old girl with hardly any CTD's.

EDIT: well on a good spot 40fps and in a busy area 15-18fps
 
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