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No idea what: Grey Matters quest, can't get it started

Battousai124

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I have a heavy modified playthrough, and I am using a lot of addon packs for SS2, however I am not able to identify any kind of conflict with SS2 that would lead to the character "Anton" to be unresponsive to the player. He does say his line "drink or get out of my face" or whatever it is that is supposed to kick off the convo, but i as the player cannot talk to him to start this quest.
He didn't die or anything as I literally never could talk to him to start the quest in the first place, so he didn't die or anything, I have tried everything (with savegames before any attempts) recycleactor, resetdialogueflags, anything i could think of. No dice!
Is there anything I can do to play the quest, other than a new playthrough?

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I can see the bugbear that has haunted me - XDI.
Even with the patch someone tried to make SS2 Has a couple of spots I just couldnt get moving. The only solution I found is to temporarily disable the mod. So I stick with Full Dialog instead because it also breaks some older mods. If you tried to have unique dialog the XDI might ignore it. If you want to disable it you will end up also having to disable other mods. XDI does /not/ like it when you try to escape its clutches.
 
Well, that is weird, I haven't had a single problem, with any of the other quests in SS2 so far, and I have done quite a bit of that content, so I have no idea why that should be a problem tbh...
 
Agreed. But the quests that it has a problem with is really consistant in my experience. I dont know why but something somewhere doesnt want to play nice.
 

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I looked at the SS2_XDI Patch and SS2 XDI Perk Speech Checks esps and to be honest the first one flags the quest record as a partial form (no idea what that does) and the second one just removes that flag again, so i have no idea what they are supposed to do, but maybe aren't doing?
 
OK, I disabled the 2 patch esps, I even disabled XDI completely and loaded up a savegame I had directly after getting the miscellaneous quest to talk to him from The Ron, but no dice, I just can't talk to him.
 
I was thinking you hadnt helped Mansfield yet. You need to talk to him and get the vitomatic before you can talk to Jake.
 
If, just after loading a cell you immediately go into conversation... it could be an XDI thing. I don't have SS2 installed and if I enter a door that loads a new cell and go immediately into a quest conversaion I can't use the keyboard to select an option, or select the current one. It's like the keyboard is disabled... like it didn't initialize the keypress event before going into the conversation code(XDI). If the quest doesn't account for 're-entrant'... it'll break.
 
@Skywise001 I had helped him and the other one clear the waterpipe, so it wasn't that.
@Mystical Panda The problem is, I go from the door of the Third Rail, after entering, to him on the floor below, not sprinting, just normal, and I try to initiate the convo, my char says "hi" or whatever but Anton doesnt even react to it, like he's not there, if i stand beside him for a bit, he starts using his initial line "beer or out of my face", but nothing beyond that.
 
Save First of course
Try targeting him in console and doing Kill. Then Resurrect. It might reset him and it might make you feel better :D
Then try disable and enable. Again it might reset him.
You an try Recycleactor too but that command has a rep for not being the best.
Look on the Wiki for the Quest guide and move the stages a tiny bit with setstage.
See if there are multiple of him in a search. Try and spawn them all and see if any of them can talk.
 
Im back to having Anton be AWOL again. I waited a long time but no sign.
Weirdly I found the quest in the guide to have the wrong name. Its SS2_Nika_MQ08b_GreyMatters instead of SS2_MQ08b_GreyMatters once I had the right name advancing the quest to 3 made him appear and come with me.
 
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XDI should work fine with it. The thing that needed the patch in that quest was in its final part (3-way conversation), and msalaba's patch was integrated. I think the other patch was broken and removed from Nexus, and you should only be using one of them anyway.
Im back to having Anton be AWOL again. I waited a long time but no sign.
Weirdly I found the quest in the guide to have the wrong name. Its SS2_Nika_MQ08b_GreyMatters instead of SS2_MQ08b_GreyMatters once I had the right name advancing the quest to 3 made him appear and come with me.
A bunch of quest ID's were changed so that could be it. Mandatory warnings in case people do it recklessly: console commands are bad mkay.
 
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