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Solved CTD Regularly in and around Concord, even after background scripts finish

Squidfest

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Hello, all. I absolutely adore this mod and its concept. Sim Settlements is and always will be one of my favorite mods. That being said... I cannot, for the life of me, reliably play it. For whatever reason, without any warning, my game CTDs in odd places, generally around Concord, even after the background scripts load. I haven't been able to progress at all from the "assassinate the Raider Leaders" part without constant crashing. Often, I don't even get to there.This is vexing enough as it is, but it's made even better by Bethesda's "crash-logs-are-a-sign-of-weakness" mentality as I have no easy way of diagnosing the problem.

Here's the kicker, though: it only happens with Conqueror installed.

A while back I decided to do a clean install, add my weapons/armors/textures/new lands, and then Sim Settlements and Conqueror. I cut my load order in half, removed most if not all mods which had scripting, and scrubbed every single mod in my load order for ITMs and UDRs. When I run the game without Conqueror, I get zero problems save for those inescapable engine glitches which break immersion but don't brick your game.

I can show my Load Order if it would in any way help to troubleshoot this. There must be something I'm overlooking.
0 0 Fallout4.esm
1 1 DLCRobot.esm
2 2 DLCworkshop01.esm
3 3 DLCCoast.esm
4 4 DLCworkshop02.esm
5 5 DLCworkshop03.esm
6 6 DLCNukaWorld.esm
254 FE 0 ccbgsfo4038-horsearmor.esl
254 FE 1 ccfsvfo4001-modularmilitarybackpack.esl
254 FE 2 ccawnfo4001-brandedattire.esl
7 7 Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp
254 FE 3 IceStormsTacticalOutfits.esl
8 8 ArmorKeywords.esm
9 9 NAC.esm
10 a NPCScaling.esm
11 b XDI.esm
12 c SimSettlements.esm
254 FE 4 ClassicSuperSledge.esl
254 FE 5 Glock86.esl
13 d WorkshopFramework.esm
14 e EnclaveX02.esp
15 f RiotShotgun.esp
16 10 NAC-NukaWorld.esp
17 11 NAC-FarHarbor.esp
18 12 Vivid Fallout - All in One - Best Performance.esp
19 13 ValdacilsItemSorting-00-ValsPicks-DLCVersion.esp
20 14 ValdacilsItemSorting-ZY-DLCContraptions.esp
21 15 ValdacilsItemSorting-JunkBetter+DEF_INV.esp
22 16 ValdacilsItemSorting-MiscWeightless.esp
23 17 ValdacilsItemSorting-ZY-DLCVaultTec.esp
24 18 NoAffinityCooldown.esp
outlawer Titanfall.esp
Outlawer_battlefield4.esp
RE_Pack_USS.esp
Modern Armors.esp
TacticalWasteland.esp
outlawer MetroLL.esp
EnclaveTrooper TestModels.esp
CROSS_Wasteland_Ronin_ClassicGhoulsPatch.esp
Modern Firearms.esp
25 19 Pip-Boy Flashlight.esp
26 1a Flat And Tidy Specticle Island.esp
27 1b SOTS.esp
28 1c Armorsmith Extended.esp
29 1d LegendaryCraftingFramework.esp
254 FE 6 LCF_Automatron.esp
30 1e BTInteriors_Project.esp
31 1f ValdacilsItemSorting-ModsWeightless.esp
32 20 IndustrialCity_Sim_Settlements_Addon.esp
Average Joe.esp
God Loves a Trier.esp
Pity Party.esp
Pretty Special.esp
The Most Specialist.esp
33 21 Survivalist GoBags-Chem Station.esp
34 22 ValdacilsItemSorting-ZY-DLCAutomatron.esp
35 23 ValdacilsItemSorting-ZY-DLCNukaWorld.esp
36 24 ValdacilsItemSorting-ZY-DLCFarHarbor.esp
RE_Pack_BSAA.esp
37 25 FOC_NCR_Armors.esp
38 26 MNO-NCR.esp
39 27 Classic Combat Armor.esp
40 28 F3metalarmor.esp
41 29 ChineseStealthSuit.esp
42 2a AnS Wearable Backpacks and Pouches.esp
43 2b AnS Wearable Backpacks and Pouches - No Crafting Perks.esp
44 2c AnS Wearable Backpacks and Pouches - AWKCR.esp
45 2d AnS Wearable Backpacks and Pouches - Ballistic Weave.esp
46 2e Classic Fallout Music.esp
47 2f Classic Fallout Music Far Harbor.esp
48 30 Classic Fallout Music NukaWorld.esp
49 31 Dr Squid's Wonder Shipment.esp
50 32 CraftableAmmo.esp
51 33 CraftableAmmo_plus.esp
52 34 fo3friedghouls.esp
53 35 3dscopes.esp
54 36 3dscopes-framework.esp
55 37 dD-Enhanced Blood.esp
56 38 dD - Limited Blood Decals.esp
57 39 MoreCustomEyes.esp
58 3a Craftable Cats.esp
59 3b Perks Unleashed.esp
60 3c GhoulishOverhaul.esp
61 3d Insignificant Object Remover.esp
62 3e TrulyGhoulishNukaWorld.esp
63 3f 3DNPC_FO4.esp
64 40 Atomic World.esp
65 41 moreXplore.esp
66 42 ConcordEXPANDED.esp
yourenotokay.esp
67 43 NegativeAffinityIsPositiveAffinity.esp
sarcasticdragon's snarky loading screens fallout 4 edition.esp
68 44 HagenEXPANDED.esp
69 45 SimSettlements_XPAC_Conqueror.esp
70 46 SimSettlements_MegaPack_YearTwo.esp
71 47 Backpacks of the Commonwealth.esp
72 48 BeastWhisperer.esp
73 49 ExoticWorkshopCreatures.esp
74 4a BeastMaster_ExoticCreaturesPatch.esp
75 4b SOTS_AWKCR_AS_Patch.esp
76 4c CheatTerminal.esp
77 4d UniqueUniques.esp
78 4e Immortal Cats 2.esp
79 4f 3DNPC_FO4Settler.esp
80 50 Mk41GyrojetHMG.esp
81 51 Mercenary.esp
82 52 SuperMutantRedux.esp
83 53 EG7.esp
84 54 Minuteman Watchtowers.esp
85 55 ChinaLakeandHolorifle.esp
86 56 Holorifle_1.5xDamage.esp
87 57 Vault-Tec_MPL.esp
88 58 Glock86.esp
89 59 SA80.esp
90 5a AKM_AKMS.esp
91 5b AKM_AKMS_NWPatch.esp
Live Dismemberment - Brutal.esp
Live Dismemberment - Insane-o.esp
Live Dismemberment - Liebermode.esp
92 5c Live Dismemberment - Mental.esp
Live Dismemberment - Mind-Blowing.esp
Live Dismemberment - POSTAL.esp
Live Dismemberment - Regular.esp
93 5d ValdacilsItemSorting-AidWeightless.esp
RE_Pack_Gunner_LL.esp
94 5e Glowing Animals Emit Light.esp
95 5f Immortal Cats - Cat Meat to Cat Food.esp
96 60 SuperMutantRedux VIS Patch.esp
97 61 SuperMutantRedux_ArmorSmithExtended.esp
98 62 E3PC.esp
99 63 CROSS_GoreCrits.esp
100 64 CROSS_GoreCrits_FarHarborPatch.esp
101 65 LooksMenu.esp
102 66 G36Complex.esp
103 67 LAER.esp
104 68 10mmSMG.esp
105 69 45autoPistol.esp
106 6a F4NVServiceRifleRedux.esp
107 6b WattzLaserGun.esp
108 6c SCAR-L.esp
109 6d PiP-Boy2000.esp
110 6e PiP-Boy2000_Pip-BoyFlashlight.esp
111 6f Pip-Boy Flashlight - Hide Pipboy.esp
112 70 GP5.esp
113 71 Rangergearnew.esp
114 72 Safehouses.esp
115 73 DWUK_LexingtonInteriors.esp
116 74 stumbleuponinteriors.esp
117 75 ClassicSniper.esp
118 76 M1Garand.esp
119 77 M1Garand - AWKCR-VIS.esp
120 78 P90.esp
121 79 M1Garand-2xDMG.esp
122 7a P90NPC.esp
123 7b MakeYourOwnSynths.esp
124 7c VisibleWeaponsOnPacks.esp
125 7d RealisticHamRadio.esp
126 7e WestTekTacticalOptics.esp
127 7f AK74M.esp
128 80 SimSettlements_MegaPack_YearOne.esp
129 81 MJC_Sim_Settlements_Addon.esp
130 82 WVSimSAddon.esp
131 83 Hellfirenew.esp
132 84 Altairp's Animal Farm.esp
133 85 RU556.esp
134 86 HaxRPG7.esp
135 87 BullpupBozar.esp
136 88 FV20_DreadHG.esp
137 89 AK400.esp
138 8a Archimedes-II.esp
139 8b CROSS_RugerMkV.esp
140 8c ClassicSniperCombatScopes.esp
141 8d DD_bleu_Ump_Extreme_Lore_friendly_edition.esp
142 8e Fireaxe.esp
143 8f G36 add-ons.esp
144 90 SigSauer127.esp
145 91 R91AssaultRifle.esp
146 92 MP7.esp
147 93 LAER Automatron Weapons.esp
148 94 LAER-Armorsmith_Patch.esp
149 95 M60.esp
150 96 MNO-AssaultCarbine.esp
151 97 MNO-UnoctRangers.esp
152 98 MNO-LeverGuns.esp
153 99 McMillanCS5.esp
154 9a McMillan CS5 - See Through Combat Scopes Patch.esp
155 9b MG42.esp
156 9c M870.esp
157 9d 3dscopes-bullpupbozar.esp
3dscopes-ccamr.esp
3dscopes-ccgauss.esp
3dscopes-lk05.esp
158 9e 3dscopes-R91AR.esp
159 9f 3dscopes-servicerifle.esp
160 a0 3dscopes-wattz.esp
161 a1 ehtyeci_MPX.esp
162 a2 win1897.esp
163 a3 WinchesterP94.esp
164 a4 YK42B.esp
165 a5 ManufacturingExtended.esp
166 a6 More Realistic Cats.esp
254 FE 7 CROSS_BreakActionLaser.esp
167 a7 HK_UMP.esp
254 FE 8 VisibleWeaponsOnPacks_-_AE_patch.esp
168 a8 HuntingRifleSounds.esp
169 a9 F4NV-N99.esp
CROSS_CourserStrigidae.esp
CF_AtomicWarlordNoMod.esp
CF_AtomicWarlord_VIS.esp
254 FE 9 VFX Foundations.esp
254 FE a VFX Foundations 2nd.esp
170 aa AtomsConqueror.esp
Bashed Patch, 0.esp
All I've ever wanted is to spread Atom's Glory across the Commonwealth, but thus far I cannot achieve such a feat.
 
CTD can come from anything ,to many mods for your system,load order issue bad mods,mod conflicts.
the hard part is trying to find out which is the cause.
 
CTD can come from anything ,to many mods for your system,load order issue bad mods,mod conflicts.
the hard part is trying to find out which is the cause.
So far I've been able to avoid crashing by a) Not fast-traveling into Concord, instead walking from Red Rocket
b) Doing a full save every interior/exterior change
c) avoiding the settlements until the initial questline with Jammer is completed.
The only crash I've experienced since doing these practices is headshotting Tower Tom in Beantown Brewery, and even then I'm unsure as to whether or not the fault lies with Conqueror. Will continue to test, I think the main conflict was Concord Expanded though.
 
ok cool:) let us know how you go
Atom be praised! The questline continues, but a new conundrum has arisen. Jammer will not stop talking about the first vassalization effort but I lack the soldiers. I'm going to leave a metric ton of Jet in the supply shed and go exploring and hope for the best. My deathclaw needs a walk anyways.

Another question; I cannot change my Gang's HQ's faction (I assume this is intentional.) However, they are uncouth brigands and their antics bring shame to Atom's glory. Will I be able to claim future outposts for the Children of Atom (as I have the faction pack installed), or have I unwittingly made a diabolic pact with the unclean and denied Atom's chosen their chance at total dominion?
 
you will have to use the warplanners desk to claim a outpost for your faction. Then you can raid from there and then spread the holy glow ;)
 
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