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Solved Stack dumps from squad manager when I haven't started Conq yet

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Update: Crash unrelated, SquadManager issue not ideal but not critical.

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The following is from:
- Loading a save 2 hours into the game, right outside the Molerat Den. I haven't used the SS holotape yet, nor spoken to Jammer.
- Going into the den and killing the mole rats.

A number of things seem to happen - first, some possible error or issue with the WSFW and/or Conqueror HUD. Secondly, the SquadManager seems to be trying to divide XP and loot to a nonexistant Conqueror squad, and throwing a lot of errors. The below is from about 30 seconds of gameplay right before, during and after killing the mole rats. I then tried to save the game, and it froze.

First part of log:
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[05/08/2020 - 07:20:08PM] Conqueror HUD Framework Widget Conqueror_ProgressMeter.swf successfully loaded!
[05/08/2020 - 07:20:08PM] error: Failed to call member function HUD_WidgetLoaded on [workshopframework:hudframeworkmanager <WSFW_HUDFrameworkManager (0900269E)>] - function name likely invalid, or object incorrect type
stack:
[WSFW_HUDFrameworkManager (0900269E)].workshopframework:hudframeworkmanager.CallFunctionNoWait() - "<native>" Line ?
[HUDFramework (0B000F99)].HUDFramework.LoadWidget() - "C:\Programs\Steam\steamapps\common\Fallout 4\Data\Scripts\Source\User\HUDFramework.psc" Line 227
[HUDFramework (0B000F99)].HUDFramework.AutoloadWidgets() - "C:\Programs\Steam\steamapps\common\Fallout 4\Data\Scripts\Source\User\HUDFramework.psc" Line 613
[HUDFramework (0B000F99)].HUDFramework.StartSession() - "C:\Programs\Steam\steamapps\common\Fallout 4\Data\Scripts\Source\User\HUDFramework.psc" Line 551
[HUDFramework (0B000F99)].HUDFramework.::remote_Actor_OnPlayerLoadGame() - "C:\Programs\Steam\steamapps\common\Fallout 4\Data\Scripts\Source\User\HUDFramework.psc" Line 538
[05/08/2020 - 07:20:10PM] error: Array index -1 is out of range (0-0)
stack:
[kgConq_SquadManager (87024A32)].simsettlementsconqueror:squadmanager.QuestEventFallbackCode() - "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\Fallout 4\Data\Scripts\Source\User\SimSettlementsConqueror\SquadManager.psc" Line 430
[kgConq_SquadManager (87024A32)].simsettlementsconqueror:squadmanager.HandleGameLoaded() - "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\Fallout 4\Data\Scripts\Source\User\SimSettlementsConqueror\SquadManager.psc" Line 419
[kgConq_SquadManager (87024A32)].simsettlementsconqueror:squadmanager.OnStageSet() - "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Fallout 4\Data\Scripts\Source\User\WorkshopFramework\Library\SlaveQuest.psc" Line 57
[05/08/2020 - 07:20:10PM] error: Cannot call GetCount() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
[kgConq_SquadManager (87024A32)].simsettlementsconqueror:squadmanager.QuestEventFallbackCode() - "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\Fallout 4\Data\Scripts\Source\User\SimSettlementsConqueror\SquadManager.psc" Line 430
[kgConq_SquadManager (87024A32)].simsettlementsconqueror:squadmanager.HandleGameLoaded() - "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\Fallout 4\Data\Scripts\Source\User\SimSettlementsConqueror\SquadManager.psc" Line 419
[kgConq_SquadManager (87024A32)].simsettlementsconqueror:squadmanager.OnStageSet() - "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Fallout 4\Data\Scripts\Source\User\WorkshopFramework\Library\SlaveQuest.psc" Line 57
[05/08/2020 - 07:20:10PM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp87"
stack:
[kgConq_SquadManager (87024A32)].simsettlementsconqueror:squadmanager.QuestEventFallbackCode() - "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\Fallout 4\Data\Scripts\Source\User\SimSettlementsConqueror\SquadManager.psc" Line 430
[kgConq_SquadManager (87024A32)].simsettlementsconqueror:squadmanager.HandleGameLoaded() - "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\Fallout 4\Data\Scripts\Source\User\SimSettlementsConqueror\SquadManager.psc" Line 419
[kgConq_SquadManager (87024A32)].simsettlementsconqueror:squadmanager.OnStageSet() - "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Fallout 4\Data\Scripts\Source\User\WorkshopFramework\Library\SlaveQuest.psc" Line 57
[05/08/2020 - 07:20:22PM] error: Unable to call getLinkedRef - no native object bound to the script object, or object is of incorrect type
stack:
[<nullptr form> (FF00331:cool:].workshopobjectscript.getLinkedRef() - "<native>" Line ?
[WSFW_ResourceManager (09005C1F)].workshopframework:workshopresourcemanager.HandleRemoteBuiltResources() - "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Fallout 4\Data\Scripts\Source\User\WorkshopFramework\WorkshopResourceManager.psc" Line 999
[WSFW_ResourceManager (09005C1F)].workshopframework:workshopresourcemanager.OnTimer() - "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Fallout 4\Data\Scripts\Source\User\WorkshopFramework\WorkshopResourceManager.psc" Line 285
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Second part of log with the Squad Manager stuff (log too long for one post):

[pre]
[05/08/2020 - 07:20:34PM] error: Array index -1 is out of range (0-0)
stack:
[kgConq_SquadManager (87024A32)].simsettlementsconqueror:squadmanager.GiveExperience() - "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\Fallout 4\Data\Scripts\Source\User\SimSettlementsConqueror\SquadManager.psc" Line 1553
[kgConq_SquadManager (87024A32)].simsettlementsconqueror:squadmanager.::remote_Actor_OnKill() - "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\Fallout 4\Data\Scripts\Source\User\SimSettlementsConqueror\SquadManager.psc" Line 323
[05/08/2020 - 07:20:34PM] error: Cannot call GetCount() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
[kgConq_SquadManager (87024A32)].simsettlementsconqueror:squadmanager.GiveExperience() - "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\Fallout 4\Data\Scripts\Source\User\SimSettlementsConqueror\SquadManager.psc" Line 1553
[kgConq_SquadManager (87024A32)].simsettlementsconqueror:squadmanager.::remote_Actor_OnKill() - "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\Fallout 4\Data\Scripts\Source\User\SimSettlementsConqueror\SquadManager.psc" Line 323
[05/08/2020 - 07:20:34PM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp527"
stack:
[kgConq_SquadManager (87024A32)].simsettlementsconqueror:squadmanager.GiveExperience() - "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\Fallout 4\Data\Scripts\Source\User\SimSettlementsConqueror\SquadManager.psc" Line 1553
[kgConq_SquadManager (87024A32)].simsettlementsconqueror:squadmanager.::remote_Actor_OnKill() - "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\Fallout 4\Data\Scripts\Source\User\SimSettlementsConqueror\SquadManager.psc" Line 323
[05/08/2020 - 07:20:35PM] PlayerHit: [MasterAmbushActorScript < (0005FAA4)>] HitSource: [Weapon < (00004822)>]
[05/08/2020 - 07:20:36PM] PlayerHit: [MasterAmbushActorScript < (0005FAA4)>] HitSource: [Weapon < (00004822)>]
[05/08/2020 - 07:20:36PM] error: Cannot register unbound script to receive hit events
stack:
[None].VFA_OnHitMonitor.RegisterForHitEvent() - "<native>" Line ?
[None].VFA_OnHitMonitor.OnHit() - "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Fallout 4\Data\Scripts\Source\User\VFA_OnHitMonitor.psc" Line 58
[05/08/2020 - 07:20:37PM] PlayerHit: [MasterAmbushActorScript < (0005FAA1)>] HitSource: [Form < (002407FC)>]
[05/08/2020 - 07:20:39PM] error: Array index -1 is out of range (0-0)
stack:
[kgConq_SquadManager (87024A32)].simsettlementsconqueror:squadmanager.GiveExperience() - "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\Fallout 4\Data\Scripts\Source\User\SimSettlementsConqueror\SquadManager.psc" Line 1553
[kgConq_SquadManager (87024A32)].simsettlementsconqueror:squadmanager.::remote_Actor_OnKill() - "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\Fallout 4\Data\Scripts\Source\User\SimSettlementsConqueror\SquadManager.psc" Line 323
[05/08/2020 - 07:20:39PM] error: Cannot call GetCount() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
[kgConq_SquadManager (87024A32)].simsettlementsconqueror:squadmanager.GiveExperience() - "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\Fallout 4\Data\Scripts\Source\User\SimSettlementsConqueror\SquadManager.psc" Line 1553
[kgConq_SquadManager (87024A32)].simsettlementsconqueror:squadmanager.::remote_Actor_OnKill() - "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\Fallout 4\Data\Scripts\Source\User\SimSettlementsConqueror\SquadManager.psc" Line 323
[05/08/2020 - 07:20:39PM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp527"
stack:
[kgConq_SquadManager (87024A32)].simsettlementsconqueror:squadmanager.GiveExperience() - "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\Fallout 4\Data\Scripts\Source\User\SimSettlementsConqueror\SquadManager.psc" Line 1553
[kgConq_SquadManager (87024A32)].simsettlementsconqueror:squadmanager.::remote_Actor_OnKill() - "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\Fallout 4\Data\Scripts\Source\User\SimSettlementsConqueror\SquadManager.psc" Line 323
[05/08/2020 - 07:20:41PM] error: Array index -1 is out of range (0-0)
stack:
[kgConq_SquadManager (87024A32)].simsettlementsconqueror:squadmanager.GiveExperience() - "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\Fallout 4\Data\Scripts\Source\User\SimSettlementsConqueror\SquadManager.psc" Line 1553
[kgConq_SquadManager (87024A32)].simsettlementsconqueror:squadmanager.::remote_Actor_OnKill() - "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\Fallout 4\Data\Scripts\Source\User\SimSettlementsConqueror\SquadManager.psc" Line 323
[05/08/2020 - 07:20:41PM] error: Cannot call GetCount() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
[kgConq_SquadManager (87024A32)].simsettlementsconqueror:squadmanager.GiveExperience() - "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\Fallout 4\Data\Scripts\Source\User\SimSettlementsConqueror\SquadManager.psc" Line 1553
[kgConq_SquadManager (87024A32)].simsettlementsconqueror:squadmanager.::remote_Actor_OnKill() - "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\Fallout 4\Data\Scripts\Source\User\SimSettlementsConqueror\SquadManager.psc" Line 323
[05/08/2020 - 07:20:41PM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp527"
stack:
[kgConq_SquadManager (87024A32)].simsettlementsconqueror:squadmanager.GiveExperience() - "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\Fallout 4\Data\Scripts\Source\User\SimSettlementsConqueror\SquadManager.psc" Line 1553
[kgConq_SquadManager (87024A32)].simsettlementsconqueror:squadmanager.::remote_Actor_OnKill() - "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\Fallout 4\Data\Scripts\Source\User\SimSettlementsConqueror\SquadManager.psc" Line 323
[05/08/2020 - 07:20:56PM] error: Array index -1 is out of range (0-0)
stack:
[kgConq_SquadManager (87024A32)].simsettlementsconqueror:squadmanager.DistributeLoot() - "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\Fallout 4\Data\Scripts\Source\User\SimSettlementsConqueror\SquadManager.psc" Line 913
[kgConq_SquadManager (87024A32)].simsettlementsconqueror:squadmanager.OnTimer() - "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\Fallout 4\Data\Scripts\Source\User\SimSettlementsConqueror\SquadManager.psc" Line 255
[05/08/2020 - 07:20:56PM] error: Cannot call GetCount() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
[kgConq_SquadManager (87024A32)].simsettlementsconqueror:squadmanager.DistributeLoot() - "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\Fallout 4\Data\Scripts\Source\User\SimSettlementsConqueror\SquadManager.psc" Line 913
[kgConq_SquadManager (87024A32)].simsettlementsconqueror:squadmanager.OnTimer() - "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\Fallout 4\Data\Scripts\Source\User\SimSettlementsConqueror\SquadManager.psc" Line 255
[05/08/2020 - 07:20:56PM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp266"
stack:
[kgConq_SquadManager (87024A32)].simsettlementsconqueror:squadmanager.DistributeLoot() - "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\Fallout 4\Data\Scripts\Source\User\SimSettlementsConqueror\SquadManager.psc" Line 913
[kgConq_SquadManager (87024A32)].simsettlementsconqueror:squadmanager.OnTimer() - "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\Fallout 4\Data\Scripts\Source\User\SimSettlementsConqueror\SquadManager.psc" Line 255
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None of that would cause a freeze, it's typical log garbage that happens in the early part of a game when quests are starting up and not everything has finished initializing. The post-kill dividing loot thing should definitely be checked for, but it's not going to cause crashes or major issues, this is definitely minor, so your crashes will be coming from something else.
 
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any time i read mole rat and game freeze, it takes me back to a longstanding, game breaking bug i encountered a while back.
there is a mod that i found that i have installed in my game - always - which prevents mole rats, scorpions etc, from being able to vanish back underground.
before i had this mod, i lost so many games.
after i installed this mod - those games that were once broken beyond saving were repaired and functional one again.
you can add this to your game - and see if it helps you with the game freeze - you have nothing to lose;

https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/12997

previous posts that may offer you a bit more insight;
https://simsettlements.com/site/ind...-a-new-problem-game-freezes.12354/#post-85082
 
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Solved the freeze, it was unrelated as suspected. Just a coincidence. Wasn't sure how serious the Squad stuff was, so figured I'd better post it.
 
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1ae0bfb8 said:
what was your solution?
Click to expand...
I'd blown part of my F4SE off D:

Checked my install, and Data\Scripts was missing around HALF of the scripts from F4SE. I don't know how anything ran at all, or how long it was like that. Deleted all old .dlls and installed F4SE again from a freshly-downloaded archive, making sure the exe and two .dlls didn't have to overwrite anything. Then copied over all the scripts from F4SE. Have been experiencing much less weirdness since. However, some weirdness remains.... but at least I've narrowed it down considerably!
 
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