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Question Unknown Mod Conflict Gitching out Level 2 Style Wagon

Barbara917

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The title is my question.

I am troubleshooting a graphical bug I am having in my game and I am not even sure which mods or mod incompatibilities are the problem. The graphical problems are occuring over Sim Settlement assets or SS Plugin assets and seem to pulse/flicker with the weather. I have seen this occurring in both my Greygarden and Oberland settlements. The are both using the RotC simple city plans.
 
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I am not sure if you use LOOt but if not, try here:

LOOT

Second thing is this

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109 Scrap Everything - Ultimate Edition.esp
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Always say to people if using SS, don't use that, it can break precombines and cause a world of issues, however once installed, can't be uninstalled, fresh game required.
Read This: Scrapping Mods and Performance Issues

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50 BTInteriors_Project.esp
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After loot, this is better lower down as it can cause conflick with other mods.

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11 TrueStormsF04.esm
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May conflict with
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105 FO4 Seasons - Spring - AllDLC.esp
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Although I haven't fully checked it out.

Sometimes it can be more about the game engine then the GPU, let us know :)
 
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GA_Darkerside said:
I am not sure if you use LOOt but if not, try here:

LOOT

Second thing is this


Always say to people if using SS, don't use that, it can break precombines and cause a world of issues, however once installed, can't be uninstalled, fresh game required.
Read This: Scrapping Mods and Performance Issues


After loot, this is better lower down as it can cause conflick with other mods.


May conflict with

Although I haven't fully checked it out.

Sometimes it can be more about the game engine then the GPU, let us know :)
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Thank you for your suggestions.

My load order is the LOOT load order with one exception. LOOT places WorkshopFramework after SimSettlements in the load order. I was advised on this site that WF needs to come before SS in the load so I set up a rule to move WF up in the load order. If I have my information wrong on that let me know.

Your tip about Beantown Interiors seems to be a good idea to me.

The Nexus page for the Seasons mod highly recommends TrueStorms as a companion mod.

Yes. I did take a performance hit to framerate when I installed Srap Everything. It has not been too bad.

I have tried disabling quite a few mods to see if any are affecting the graphical glitch I am getting from the Level 2 Style Wagon with no luck. My current workaround is to use a different plot plan which eliminates the glitch.

edit to add: The next new game I start I will un-install Scrap Everything from the load order and see if I can reproduce this glitch without it.
 
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while i don't know the root cause of that issue you reported, i can tell you, i have had true storms enabled in all my games since day #1 and it is rock solid. i know there are other weather mods out there, but i have never needed to transition to them, because true storms gives me everything i need.

if you want a bit of chaos, enable ghoul horde chance and set it to 100, then allow them to spawn in settlements. any time a radstorm occurs, you will be in real danger of an attack in the world - and if you're in a settlement, you will get an attack on that settlement. it is good fun.

if you go to the glowing sea things get hectic, you can barely walk 10 steps without an attack. great for farming, perhaps not so great for making progress. i've had quite an ordeal with true storms ghoul hordes and trying to get to virgil's cave. once it took me several attempts as progress was slowed and the attacks relentless. paladin dance has never forgiven me, even though he got a nice legendary out of it!

i also don't make use of any scrap mods. nothing against the mods themselves, i get why people use them, but, i have wrecked more than one game by using them and being an idiot and deleting huge chunks of the world. plus, the framerate hit that you suffer if you want to use them makes them a no-no.

i like the mods you have in your load order, and aside from the scrap mods, i would happily download and run a few of them in my own world.

i hope this message helps you with your decision on whether to use true storms or not - for me - it's the first mod in my load order any time i make a new play through.
 
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Barbara917 said:
My load order is the LOOT load order with one exception. LOOT places WorkshopFramework after SimSettlements in the load order. I was advised on this site that WF needs to come before SS in the load so I set up a rule to move WF up in the load order. If I have my information wrong on that let me know.
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From the Man himself......From my first post on this forum.
 
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LOOT places WorkshopFramework after SimSettlements
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I wrote a guide on LOOT where I did say that LOOT is good for about 95-98% of load order organisation, BT then BT patch should be close to the bottom, as for the above (Your Quote), I have lost count how many times, just a single movement of a mod in the load order (even though you are told it doesn't matter) does.

My Load Order
0 Fallout4.esm
1 DLCRobot.esm
2 DLCworkshop01.esm
3 DLCCoast.esm
4 DLCworkshop02.esm
5 DLCworkshop03.esm
6 DLCNukaWorld.esm
7 Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp
8 ArmorKeywords.esm
9 HUDFramework.esm
10 WorkshopFramework.esm
11 TrueStormsF04.esm
12 Homemaker.esm
13 Snap'n Build.esm
14 VotWMaster.esm
15 VotWSpecialVideos.esl
16 VotWTheatre.esl
17 SimSettlements.esm
18 SimSettlements_IDEKsLogisticsStation.esl
19 GoodOldCartoonsVolumeI.esl
20 GoodOldCartoonsVolumeII.esl
21 GoodOldCartoonsVolumeIII.esl
22 Crimsomrider's DLC Ammo.esp
23 DD_Khassar_De_Templari_Increased_build.esp
24 VC_BetterWorkshopLightsComplete_Shadows.esp
25 Vault-tec brighter lights.esp
26 BetterSettlersNoLollygagging.esp
27 Quick Save.esp
28 HoloTime.esp
29 console.esp
30 Immersive HUD.esp
31 UncappedSettlementSurplus.esp
32 Dogmeat's Backpack.esp
33 spacefiddle_Follower-Stealth-Distance-Fixes.esp
34 Faster Terminal Displays (10x).esp
35 Marmo1233 - Immersive Settlers.esp
36 Armorsmith Extended.esp
37 (Disabled) EBW-Merged.esp
38 AzarPonytailHairstyles.esp
39 DD_1x1_Foundation_Blocks.esp
40 TurretStands.esp
41 CompanionsGoHome_A.esp
42 Reverb and Ambience Overhaul.esp
43 TrueStormsF04-FarHarbor.esp
44 TrueStormsF04-NukaWorld-FH-Compat.esp
45 DarkerNights.esp
46 DarkerNightsDetection.esp
47 dinoshelf.esp
48 dinoshelf_extra_ammo.esp
49 dinoshelf_retex.esp
50 BTInteriors_Project.esp
51 Northland Diggers New.esp
52 BetterJunkFences.esp
53 3DNPC_F04.esp
54 EveryonesBestFriend.esp
55 BTInt_Optimization.esp
56 Rebuilt_JamaicaPlain.esp
57 HAIA.esp
58 EMIB.esp
59 Eli_Armour_Compendium.esp
60 3DNPC_F04_DLC.esp
61 RecruitableSettlers.esp
62 W.A.T.Minutemen.esp
63 VotWStarlightDrivein.esp
64 AnotherBrickinTheWall.esp
65 JibsResidentialAddOnPack.esp
66 VotWCells.esp
67 3DNPC_FO4Settler.esp
68 RecruitableSettlersFH.esp
69 Mercenary.esp
70 SettlementMenuManager.esp
71 SimSettlementsRecr_Leaders.esp
72 MJC_SS_Plots.esp
73 B84sThemedResidentials.esp
74 SS_AddOn_CbC_AIO.esp
75 SimSettlements_AddOnPack_Defences_Brae.esp
76 JunkTown.esp
77 ruined_simsettlement_addonpack.esp
78 UitFJ.esp
79 TrailerParkDreams.esp
80 ohSIM_Sim_Settlements_Scrappers_Addon.esp
81 SimHomestead.esp
82 RS_Sim_AddOn.esp
83 home_improvement_all.esp
84 JamaicaPlainExpansion.esp
85 WVSimSAddon.esp
86 AtomicRadio.esp
87 PCDugTriangularRevolution.esp
88 MJC_Sim_Settlements_Addon.esp
89 PCDugWedges.esp
90 SSEX.esp
91 CWSS Redux.esp
92 SalvageBeacons.esp
93 BasementLiving.esp
94 Altairp's Animal Farm.esp
95 IndustrialCity_Sim_Settlements_Addon.esp
96 IndustrialCity_Sim_Settlements_Dispatcher_Radio_Optional.esp
97 Sim_Settlements_Mayors.esp
98 PCDugSIMAddon.esp
99 SimSettlements_AddOnPack_Foundations_JtBryant.esp
100 SimSettlements_AddOnPack_Utilities_JtBryant.esp
101 SimSettlements Previews Newest.esp
102 ss_addon_phpp.esp
103 Vertibird Alt Fix.esp
104 Brainwashing.esp
105 FO4 Seasons - Spring - AllDLC.esp
106 BBVid Holotapes.esp
107 SimSettlements_CityPlanPack_ContestEntries.esp
108 3DNPC_FO4Settler_SimSettlements.esp
109 Scrap Everything - Ultimate Edition.esp
110 BetterSettlers.esp
111 BetterSettlersCleanFacePack.esp
112 BetterSettlersCCAPack2.0.esp

Using a Spolier for you load order does stop a post being bloated, example above

Spoli.JPG

Pase between ][
Spoli1.JPG

For future reference lol
 
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@GA_Darkerside Thank you for the tips and thank you for drawing me pictures on how to do a spoiler. It really helped. I am not very familiar with the bulletin board tools. I still haven't figured out how to change the tag on a thread. Sorry to be so dense. Is there a way to change the thread title once I have determined TrueStorms is likely not my problem?

@1ae0bfb8 I have really liked the TrueStorms mod except when I am settlement building and one of those rusty dusty storms blows through. Then I curse it. May I ask how to pronounce your name?:scratchhead

@Phil_T_Casual Thank you for all the tips. They have helped a lot.
 
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The only thing I could see is for me personally, I put all visuals and audio overwrites/mods at the bottom of the load order. I ran into glitching of visuals in settlements with Workshop + using the "Clear weather" option - I use weather, an ENB, etc... so the glitching went away when I shut off that option. Maybe it would have been okay if I put it after my weather/lighting mods? I don't know.
 
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@1ae0bfb8 I have really liked the TrueStorms mod except when I am settlement building and one of those rusty dusty storms blows through. Then I curse it. May I ask how to pronounce your name?:scratchhead
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i truly have no idea. its the same name as my id on nexusmods. i used a password manager to generate a random userid/password - word to the wise - don't do that or you end up with gibberish like wot i got!
 
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Barbara917 said:
@GA_Darkerside Thank you for the tips and thank you for drawing me pictures on how to do a spoiler. It really helped. I am not very familiar with the bulletin board tools. I still haven't figured out how to change the tag on a thread. Sorry to be so dense. Is there a way to change the thread title once I have determined TrueStorms is likely not my problem?
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It's not problem at all, takes a while, we all start off like that, even me lol

I will go into my test account as the way i change a tag as admin is different
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Hope that helps
 
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